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Primary Arms PLx 1-8x24 RDB

 Primary Arms PLxC

1-8x24 RDB LPVO Review

  The PLx series from Primary Arms Optics is their top tier “premier” optic line. Recently they updated their PLx Low Power Variable Optics (LPVO) with “Red Dot Bright” illuminated reticles, or RDB as they call it. They sent over one of the PLx 1-8x24 RDB with the ACSS Raptor G2 reticle. This is their first focal plane (FFP) reticle for 5.56/308 that has ranging capabilities. Is it perfect? No, but it does have some fantastic features.

  When you first see the Primary Arms PLx 1-8 you notice it. The lines are very sleek. It is not a target scope with huge turrets. Which is what you would expect from a LPVO. It is compact when compared to some other FFP optics in this tier. It is also fairly lightweight. All the controls are easy to get to and function better than expected. Then there is the super clear glass. 

  First, I am jumping right into the reticle. The PLx 1-8 has 2 different reticle options: The ACSS Griffin MIL G2 and the ACSS Raptor 5.56/.308 Yard G2. I opted for the ACSS Raptor reticle, the Griffin is more of a standard MIL reticle and I wanted something where I didn’t have to think too much for bullet drop. Both are FFP reticles and get larger when you zoom in. This is because all markings on the reticles stay the same actual size for ranging and bullet drop compensation.

  The ACSS (Advanced Combined Sighting System) Raptor reticle was designed primarily for 223/5.56 rifles, but it also will work on 308 rifles. I will explain it for 5.56. The Raptor is a Bullet Drop Compensating (BDC) reticle that also does range estimation and has MIL markings. Pointing toward the center reticle are 3 solid lines, these can only be seen between 1x and 2x. When zoomed in past that, you only see the inner reticles. There are then MIL marked lines toward the inner most BDC reticle. The inner BDC reticle is where all the magic happens. 

  The Raptor BDC part of the reticle allows one to range targets and adapt for wind. In the very center is the horseshoe chevron reticle. The horseshoe is roughly 2.5 MIL’s in diameter and then has a small center chevron (open triangle). You sight in at the top point of the chevron. This gives a very precise aiming point. The BDC marks are then below the chevron marked with 4,6, & 8. These numbers are in yards for bullet drop. The bottom of the chevron would be 200 yards and the top vertical stadia mark would be 300. This mark is also at the bottom of the horseshoe. There are wind holds, or lead dots, for 5, 10, & 15 MPH at the BDC ranges. Horizontal to the horseshoe are 3 more dots. These are for leading a target also, but they are 3, 6, & 9 MPH which corresponds to a human's walk, jog, and run. 

  Simplified ranging can also be done with the ACSS Raptor reticle. In the reticle, on each side going toward the outside, are vertical lines. These lines get larger as you move toward the outside of the reticle. There are 5 lines with a number on every other one. The numbers designate a range in hundreds, so the #6 represents 600 yards. These lines fit an average height person. So if the person fits perfectly in the #4 line, you know they are at approximately 400 yards. To take the ranging one step farther in the Raptor reticle, there are also width ranging lines that run down the vertical BDC marks. These horizontal small lines are used to measure a 18 inch wide target, like a USPSA one. Or the average width of a human torso. Essentially you use it the same way as the height ones. Fit the target in the proper line, say the #6 line, and you know the target is at approximately 600 yards. The ranging is actually pretty easy, once you get the hang of it. 

  Now that you know about the reticle, let’s adjust it. The PLx comes with capped turrets. This helps with the low profile of the 1-8. The turret covers are about 1.5 inches in diameter and have pretty sharp knurling on them. So it is easy to unscrew them, even with thick gloves on. Inside those covers are the turrets themselves. They are about 1.375 inches in diameter with aggressive texture on the top to aid in adjustment. Both windage and elevation turrets adjust in 0.1 MIL increments.and go 10 MIL’s per complete revolution. The windage knob has numbers with both and R & L so you know which way you went. Of course the elevation knob has numbers 0-9, the 10 being the zero again. Both knobs have 3 tiny screws that hold the knobs in place. Once you have sighted in the optic, loosen the screws on the turrets and adjust it to the zero position, then re-tighten the screws. Primary Arms also includes a target style elevation turret. So if you want an adjustable turret without having to take off the cap, you can install it. I say target style because there is no cap, the target turret is still low profile in design. The actual adjustment clicks on the PLx are fantastic. Not only are they solid, but there is very little play when turning them from click to click. They aren’t as audible as you might think, but since they are super tactile, I do not care. The turret adjustments are steel on steel gears. This is one thing that sets higher tier optics above the cheaper ones. Plus they don’t wear out as quickly and return to zero with no error. 

  The PLx 1-8’s red illumination is bright. That is why it has the RDB label, it stands for “red dot bright”. I can attest that with the new technology Primary Arms is using, this reticle is super bright. Yes, it can be seen in direct sunlight, easily. With the reticle at 1x, it really can be used as a red dot and even kind of looks like one, because the horseshoe ends up looking like a bright red dot. When you zoom in to 8x, it is still just as bright, but does have some problems. If you look at all the info on the RDB, it shows only the horseshoe and chevron being illuminated. The problem with high brightness and magnification is that the small lines and numbers become tiny illuminated dots. It muddies up the reticle in my opinion. Turning down the reticle's brightness does help. I have a non RDB Primary Arms LPVO that does this a little bit also, so it’s not just the PLx line. Along with the illumination, the PLx 1-8 also has Primary Arms’ Autolive feature. This is their shake away auto on/off for the reticle. It helps save battery life and works fantastic. The battery is housed inside the brightness knob. There are 10 brightness settings with an off position between each one. Each setting has a positive detent to keep it in place. 

  How clear is the PLx 1-8? I'd say near perfect thanks to the Japanese ED glass that is used. Light transmission is also fantastic. The clarity is where you really notice the quality of the glass. I can't really explain it, it's just clear with no edge distortion. Eye relief is pretty decent and forgiving, even at 8x. I can look through this optic without the eye strain I get from lower tiered optics. 

  The PLx 1-8 also has a nice magnification adjuster. It is nicely knurled and super smooth to adjust. It also comes with a removable throw lever. These throw levers can be swapped for shorter, taller, or folding ones, but they have to be purchased separately. Either way, the throw lever on the magnification ring works nice and is the perfect height. 

  I ended up installing the PLx 1-8 RDB on a Flat Dark Earth 16 inch AR build. This AR has a bunch of high quality parts on and in it, so I figured it would be a great host for the PLx. Also having the 16 inch barrel puts the optic in its sweet spot for the BDC. Primary Arms also sent one of their 2.04 PLx mounts for the scope. I wasn’t sure if I would like the 2.04 mount at first, but it is kind of nice. Okay, back to the PLx 1-8. I do like that this optic is made in Japan and not China. Japan has some of the clearest optic glass around and it really shows in the clarity of the PLx. I also really liked that the PLx weighs just over a pound. It would be nice if the PLx 1-8 could have a zero stop in the turret. It may not be that “type” of scope, but a zero stop would be a good addition. The anodizing color is close to FDE, but looks more bronze colored to me. This is just another reason why we have 50 shades of FDE. The bullet drops from the Raptor reticle seemed close enough for me. This is more of a fighting optic for me, not a precision one, which is why I like the ACSS Raptor reticle. Of course, having the autolive illumination makes the LPVO ready whenever you are. The Primary Arms PLx 1-8 is a fantastic optic with a very useable magnification range.

  If you are looking for a LPVO that really does it all, check out the Primary Arms PLxC 1-8x24 FFP RDB scope. There is a good reason this thing is in Primary Arms’ Premier line of optics. It has fantastic clarity, a sunny daylight bright reticle, and can be used both as a red dot and something for distance. If you are interested, head over to Primary Arms and take a look at the PLx 1-8x24 RDB with the ACSS Raptor G2 reticle.

Firearms Insider Reviews - Key Points

Claim to Fame:

Top tier LPVO 

Target Market:

Those needing a rugged, precise, super clear LPVO with useable features

Features, Benefits, and Specifications of this product:

  • Red Dot Bright Diffractive Reticle technology

  • ACSS Raptor 5.56/.308 Yard G2 Reticle

  • Premium grade Japanese ED glass with enhanced clarity and light transmission

  • First focal plane reticles stay true at every magnification

  • High strength 30mm tube

  • Easy to swap dovetail throw lever

  • 1-8x magnification range is red dot fast in close quarters and accurate at medium range

  • AutoLive Motion-Sensing illumination technology

  • Steel On Steel (SOS®) Adjustable turrets

  • Adjustable illumination from Daylight bright to night vision compatible

  • Water proof, shock resistant, and fog resistant

  • Durable hardcoat anodized flat dark earth finish

  • Made in Japan

  • Battery Type: CR2032 3V Lithium

  • Click Value: 0.1 Mil

  • Exit Pupil Diameter: Low: 8mm / High: 3mm

  • Eye Relief: Low: 3.2 in / High: 3.7 in

  • Field View 100: Low: 121 ft / High: 14.6 ft

  • Length: 9.28 in.

  • Night Vision Compatible

  • Objective Diameter: 24mm

  • Total Elevation Adjustment: 100 MOA

  • Total Windage Adjustment: 100 MOA

  • Capped Turrets

  • Weight: 16.95 oz.

  • Lifetime warranty 

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?

Griffin Mil G2 reticle in black or FDE

What others are saying?:

5 out 5 stars on Optic Planet   

As good as it gets

Got this on a sale and paid just under 1500 after tax and shipping. For the price, you won't find a better LPVO. This thing rocks. Got the ACSS Raptor reticle as I'm running this on a 14.5 super duty and prefer the 50yd zero and ballistic drop reticle over the Griffin. Glass clarity is superb all through magnification range. And yes, this thing is absolutely red dot bright even on 7/10 setting. Maybe at high noon on a glacier you would need to go higher than 8/10 on the illumination setting. Don't bother getting scope rings with this as you will do away with the near invisible scope feature when you're at the lower magnification settings. That is also an amazing thing about this scope: at 1x, with both eyes open, the scope itself is barely perceptible when looking at your targets. Once you get the diopter adjusted to your eye (both eyes open!) there is no noticeable shift in your view when taking turns closing each eye to see the shift.

Link to other reviews:

C_Does on YouTube

Price point:

MSRP = $1749.99

Retail = Same

I need it now! Availability:

Primary Arms, Midway USA, or your local shop

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Red dot bright reticle

  • Ranging reticle

  • Super clear on 1x or 8x

  • Lightweight

  • Edge clarity

  • Smooth power adjustment

Cons:

  • FDE is more bronze’ish colored

  • No zero stop

Score: 9.00 Amazing

Sightmark Presidio 5-30x56

Sightmark Presidio

5-30x56 LR2 Review

  When it comes to magnified optics, prices and quality can range drastically. Sightmark is not new to these magnified optics and has various different product lines. Sightmark's Presidio line is somewhere in the middle of what they have to offer, which fits with what I was going to do with it. 

  I was looking for a fairly high power magnified optic. That is where Sightmark came in. They have a first focal plane Presidio in 5-30x56. It has a mil style Christmas tree reticle called the LR2. It was perfect for the Bergara I was reviewing. This much magnification makes it easier for my eyes to see targets at distance. So testing accuracy on the Bergara was easy thanks to the Presidio 5-30.

  The specifications of the Presidio 5-30 are really what make it a great optic. That 6x zoom makes it possible to see fairly close up and still reach out. Its large 56mm objective lens allows good light transmission so you can see your target, even at dusk on high magnification. The 30mm one piece body makes it easy to find scope mounts. The parallax adjustment is adjustable from 20 yds to infinity, so the Presidio can still work well on a PCP style airgun or even a 22 long rifle. It has an illuminated red reticle so you can see it better at dusk or dawn. Plus, if you want it, Sightmark throws in a throw lever. All the other details are down below in the Features and Benefit section.

  Sightmark uses their LR2 Mil reticle in the Presidio. This reticle is a pretty standard First Focal Plane Christmas tree style reticle (see picture). Since it is a first focal plane, the stadia marks of the reticle stay the same size throughout the magnification range. The LR2 reticle has windage and elevation marks at 0.5 mil increments, with mil numbers at 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10 mils. Out at the outer left, right, and top are 0.1 mil marks. They are intended to give a more accurate range estimation, when using the reticle for determining the range to a target. The Christmas tree dots can be used to combine wind and elevation holds, giving you a precise reference on where to aim. Lastly, the stadia line thickness is 0.03 mils, so you get a super precise aiming point. If you want the full hash marked reticle in view, you can only adjust the scope’s power up to 18x. After that the reticle starts to get cut off in the window. At 30x, you get about 2⁄3 's of the reticle’s marked stadia. 

  When looking at optics in this price range, optic clarity is huge. The Presidio 5-30 pleasantly surprised me for a $500 optic. When looking through the optic, it is very clear and has very little chromatic abrasion throughout the magnification range. Eye relief is decent. However, I did notice a slight difference between 5x and 30x. The weird part is that 30x seemed more forgiving than 5x, Usually it is the other way around and the lower magnification is more forgiving on eye relief. The field of view, or the width of what you see looking through the scope, is a little narrower than some optics. So finding a target at the higher magnifications can be a little more difficult. I wouldn’t call this a deal breaker for sure, just something to note for some shooters. 

  Having an illuminated reticle on the Presidio is nice. It is not daylight bright, but it is not intended to be. If you are shooting in lower light, or even cloud cover, it works nicely. There are 6 brightness adjustments on the left turret. In between each level is an “off” resting spot. I really like having an off position between brightness levels. That way I don’t have to try and remember to turn the knob all the way to the off position. Sightmark says the battery life on the Presidio has a 150 hour average. So at lower levels you can get up to 500 hours. This may not sound like a lot, but that's basically a week of being turned on all the time, or more. 

  The Presidio 5-30 uses target style turrets. I think these style turrets were a good option for the Presidio. They don’t stick up too far and are large enough to get a good grip on. The turrets produce a decent click when adjusting them and it can be felt. Each click adjusts the scope by 0.1 mil. The elevation turret has numbers 0-9, with 10 hash marks between the numbers. Each number is 1 mil and each hash mark is 0.1 mil. The windage knob has a zero position, then it is marked either 1R, 2R, etc, or 1L, 2L, etc. Each number is also 1 mil with 0.1 mil hash marks between them. For example, if the bullet needs to go left, just move the dial toward 1L. Both the windage and elevation knobs can be set to zero once you are sighted in. On the left side of the Presidio is the parallax knob and the brightness knob. These are pretty self explanatory. A win for the Presidio is that it also comes with a zero stop. This is very uncommon for optics in the Presidio’s price range. The zero stop is also easy to install. 

Radio tower lamp is approximately 300 yds away

  As mentioned previously, I mounted up the Sightmark Presidio on a Bergara bolt action rifle. The rifle is a 308 win. I found the Presidio to perform well enough on that platform. The eye relief made it harder to get the scope forward enough with normal picatinny rings. If I had an extended pic rail mounted on the Bergara, that would have helped. One disadvantage of the Presidio is its 30 mm tube. Because of this, you only get 18 mils of travel out of it. With the Bergara’s 20 moa base, I still only get 12.5 mils of up adjustment in the Presidio. That means that I can only dial the optic out to a range of around 1100 yards with the 308 cartridge. I don’t expect to ever shoot this past that, but it is something that I feel needed mentioning. The Presidio 5-30 is heavy, like 2 pounds worth. I know it isn’t a small optic, and other optics in this price range weigh about the same, but I was hoping for a little lighter. Other than that, I have been happy with the Presidio. I just can’t get over how clear the optic is.

  If you are looking at a decent optic to get into longer range shooting, the Sightmark Presidio 5-30x56 may be it. It has great glass for an optic in this price range. The nice turrets and zero stop make it a great choice for whatever you are doing. Yes it has some performance limitations, but in this price range, that can be expected. If you are looking for that decent, entry level, long range optic, the Sightmark Presidio might be a good choice for you.

Firearms Insider Reviews - Key Points

Claim to Fame:

Variable power, budget friendly, high magnification first focal plane optic

Target Market:

Anyone looking for a quality higher powered first focal plane optic 

Features, Benefits, and Specifications of this product:

  • Reticle brightness settings: 6

  • Magnification (x): 5-30

  • Objective lens diameter (mm): 56

  • Eyepiece diameter (in/mm): 1.74 / 44.1

  • Exit pupil diameter (mm): 36.6

  • Eye relief (in/mm): 3.7 / 95

  • Field of view (ft @100yd): 22ft - 3.7ft

  • Tube diameter (mm/in): 30 / 1.18

  • Parallax setting (yds): 20 - ∞

  • Mil adjustment (one click =): 1/10

  • Windage adjustment range (MRAD): 18

  • Elevation adjustment range (MRAD): 18

  • Zero stop included

  • Throw lever included

  • Maximum caliber: .338

  • Battery type: CR2032

  • Battery life (hours): 150 - 500 hrs

  • Shockproof, Fog proof 

  • 1st Focal plane

  • IP67 - waterproof and dustproof

  • Body material: Aluminum

  • Fully multi-coated lenses

  • Operating temperature (°F/°C): -20 to 160 / -29 to 71 F/C

  • Length (in/mm): 15.67 / 398.02

  • Width (in/mm): 3.79 / 96.25

  • Height (in/mm): 3.02 / 76.71

  • Weight (oz): 33 oz

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?

3-18x50

What others are saying?:

5 out of 5 stars from Randy on Optics Planet  

I was skeptical at first, decided to take a chance because it had a lifetime warranty and I watched a video on it from one the head tech/designer at Sightmark. I was impressed so I bought it. I wasn’t disappointed when I got it. This scope feels like a much more expensive scope. Turrets are solid, audible and precise. Has an elevation stop and removable turret caps to set back to zero when you’re done sighting. The throw lever on the magnification works really well. Clarity is very good, high and low. It weighs as much or more than scopes costing twice as much. I have it on an AR 50 A1 - .50 BMG and have put 12 rounds on it with no issues so far. As solid as it is and the few rounds I’ll shoot a lot of .50 BMG I don’t see any issues forthcoming.

Link to other reviews:

The Gun Zone  

Price point:

MSRP = $539.97

Retail = $449.97 on Amazon

I need it now! Availability:

Amazon, SightMark, MidwayUSA, or your local dealer

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Great clarity

  • LR2 mil reticle

  • First Focal Plane

  • Illuminated reticle

  • Target turrets

  • Zero Stop

Cons:

  • Long

  • Heavy

  • Long eye relief

  • Small elevation adjustment range

Score: 7.50 Good

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