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Primary Arms PLx 1-8x24 RDB

 Primary Arms PLxC

1-8x24 RDB LPVO Review

  The PLx series from Primary Arms Optics is their top tier “premier” optic line. Recently they updated their PLx Low Power Variable Optics (LPVO) with “Red Dot Bright” illuminated reticles, or RDB as they call it. They sent over one of the PLx 1-8x24 RDB with the ACSS Raptor G2 reticle. This is their first focal plane (FFP) reticle for 5.56/308 that has ranging capabilities. Is it perfect? No, but it does have some fantastic features.

  When you first see the Primary Arms PLx 1-8 you notice it. The lines are very sleek. It is not a target scope with huge turrets. Which is what you would expect from a LPVO. It is compact when compared to some other FFP optics in this tier. It is also fairly lightweight. All the controls are easy to get to and function better than expected. Then there is the super clear glass. 

  First, I am jumping right into the reticle. The PLx 1-8 has 2 different reticle options: The ACSS Griffin MIL G2 and the ACSS Raptor 5.56/.308 Yard G2. I opted for the ACSS Raptor reticle, the Griffin is more of a standard MIL reticle and I wanted something where I didn’t have to think too much for bullet drop. Both are FFP reticles and get larger when you zoom in. This is because all markings on the reticles stay the same actual size for ranging and bullet drop compensation.

  The ACSS (Advanced Combined Sighting System) Raptor reticle was designed primarily for 223/5.56 rifles, but it also will work on 308 rifles. I will explain it for 5.56. The Raptor is a Bullet Drop Compensating (BDC) reticle that also does range estimation and has MIL markings. Pointing toward the center reticle are 3 solid lines, these can only be seen between 1x and 2x. When zoomed in past that, you only see the inner reticles. There are then MIL marked lines toward the inner most BDC reticle. The inner BDC reticle is where all the magic happens. 

  The Raptor BDC part of the reticle allows one to range targets and adapt for wind. In the very center is the horseshoe chevron reticle. The horseshoe is roughly 2.5 MIL’s in diameter and then has a small center chevron (open triangle). You sight in at the top point of the chevron. This gives a very precise aiming point. The BDC marks are then below the chevron marked with 4,6, & 8. These numbers are in yards for bullet drop. The bottom of the chevron would be 200 yards and the top vertical stadia mark would be 300. This mark is also at the bottom of the horseshoe. There are wind holds, or lead dots, for 5, 10, & 15 MPH at the BDC ranges. Horizontal to the horseshoe are 3 more dots. These are for leading a target also, but they are 3, 6, & 9 MPH which corresponds to a human's walk, jog, and run. 

  Simplified ranging can also be done with the ACSS Raptor reticle. In the reticle, on each side going toward the outside, are vertical lines. These lines get larger as you move toward the outside of the reticle. There are 5 lines with a number on every other one. The numbers designate a range in hundreds, so the #6 represents 600 yards. These lines fit an average height person. So if the person fits perfectly in the #4 line, you know they are at approximately 400 yards. To take the ranging one step farther in the Raptor reticle, there are also width ranging lines that run down the vertical BDC marks. These horizontal small lines are used to measure a 18 inch wide target, like a USPSA one. Or the average width of a human torso. Essentially you use it the same way as the height ones. Fit the target in the proper line, say the #6 line, and you know the target is at approximately 600 yards. The ranging is actually pretty easy, once you get the hang of it. 

  Now that you know about the reticle, let’s adjust it. The PLx comes with capped turrets. This helps with the low profile of the 1-8. The turret covers are about 1.5 inches in diameter and have pretty sharp knurling on them. So it is easy to unscrew them, even with thick gloves on. Inside those covers are the turrets themselves. They are about 1.375 inches in diameter with aggressive texture on the top to aid in adjustment. Both windage and elevation turrets adjust in 0.1 MIL increments.and go 10 MIL’s per complete revolution. The windage knob has numbers with both and R & L so you know which way you went. Of course the elevation knob has numbers 0-9, the 10 being the zero again. Both knobs have 3 tiny screws that hold the knobs in place. Once you have sighted in the optic, loosen the screws on the turrets and adjust it to the zero position, then re-tighten the screws. Primary Arms also includes a target style elevation turret. So if you want an adjustable turret without having to take off the cap, you can install it. I say target style because there is no cap, the target turret is still low profile in design. The actual adjustment clicks on the PLx are fantastic. Not only are they solid, but there is very little play when turning them from click to click. They aren’t as audible as you might think, but since they are super tactile, I do not care. The turret adjustments are steel on steel gears. This is one thing that sets higher tier optics above the cheaper ones. Plus they don’t wear out as quickly and return to zero with no error. 

  The PLx 1-8’s red illumination is bright. That is why it has the RDB label, it stands for “red dot bright”. I can attest that with the new technology Primary Arms is using, this reticle is super bright. Yes, it can be seen in direct sunlight, easily. With the reticle at 1x, it really can be used as a red dot and even kind of looks like one, because the horseshoe ends up looking like a bright red dot. When you zoom in to 8x, it is still just as bright, but does have some problems. If you look at all the info on the RDB, it shows only the horseshoe and chevron being illuminated. The problem with high brightness and magnification is that the small lines and numbers become tiny illuminated dots. It muddies up the reticle in my opinion. Turning down the reticle's brightness does help. I have a non RDB Primary Arms LPVO that does this a little bit also, so it’s not just the PLx line. Along with the illumination, the PLx 1-8 also has Primary Arms’ Autolive feature. This is their shake away auto on/off for the reticle. It helps save battery life and works fantastic. The battery is housed inside the brightness knob. There are 10 brightness settings with an off position between each one. Each setting has a positive detent to keep it in place. 

  How clear is the PLx 1-8? I'd say near perfect thanks to the Japanese ED glass that is used. Light transmission is also fantastic. The clarity is where you really notice the quality of the glass. I can't really explain it, it's just clear with no edge distortion. Eye relief is pretty decent and forgiving, even at 8x. I can look through this optic without the eye strain I get from lower tiered optics. 

  The PLx 1-8 also has a nice magnification adjuster. It is nicely knurled and super smooth to adjust. It also comes with a removable throw lever. These throw levers can be swapped for shorter, taller, or folding ones, but they have to be purchased separately. Either way, the throw lever on the magnification ring works nice and is the perfect height. 

  I ended up installing the PLx 1-8 RDB on a Flat Dark Earth 16 inch AR build. This AR has a bunch of high quality parts on and in it, so I figured it would be a great host for the PLx. Also having the 16 inch barrel puts the optic in its sweet spot for the BDC. Primary Arms also sent one of their 2.04 PLx mounts for the scope. I wasn’t sure if I would like the 2.04 mount at first, but it is kind of nice. Okay, back to the PLx 1-8. I do like that this optic is made in Japan and not China. Japan has some of the clearest optic glass around and it really shows in the clarity of the PLx. I also really liked that the PLx weighs just over a pound. It would be nice if the PLx 1-8 could have a zero stop in the turret. It may not be that “type” of scope, but a zero stop would be a good addition. The anodizing color is close to FDE, but looks more bronze colored to me. This is just another reason why we have 50 shades of FDE. The bullet drops from the Raptor reticle seemed close enough for me. This is more of a fighting optic for me, not a precision one, which is why I like the ACSS Raptor reticle. Of course, having the autolive illumination makes the LPVO ready whenever you are. The Primary Arms PLx 1-8 is a fantastic optic with a very useable magnification range.

  If you are looking for a LPVO that really does it all, check out the Primary Arms PLxC 1-8x24 FFP RDB scope. There is a good reason this thing is in Primary Arms’ Premier line of optics. It has fantastic clarity, a sunny daylight bright reticle, and can be used both as a red dot and something for distance. If you are interested, head over to Primary Arms and take a look at the PLx 1-8x24 RDB with the ACSS Raptor G2 reticle.

Firearms Insider Reviews - Key Points

Claim to Fame:

Top tier LPVO 

Target Market:

Those needing a rugged, precise, super clear LPVO with useable features

Features, Benefits, and Specifications of this product:

  • Red Dot Bright Diffractive Reticle technology

  • ACSS Raptor 5.56/.308 Yard G2 Reticle

  • Premium grade Japanese ED glass with enhanced clarity and light transmission

  • First focal plane reticles stay true at every magnification

  • High strength 30mm tube

  • Easy to swap dovetail throw lever

  • 1-8x magnification range is red dot fast in close quarters and accurate at medium range

  • AutoLive Motion-Sensing illumination technology

  • Steel On Steel (SOS®) Adjustable turrets

  • Adjustable illumination from Daylight bright to night vision compatible

  • Water proof, shock resistant, and fog resistant

  • Durable hardcoat anodized flat dark earth finish

  • Made in Japan

  • Battery Type: CR2032 3V Lithium

  • Click Value: 0.1 Mil

  • Exit Pupil Diameter: Low: 8mm / High: 3mm

  • Eye Relief: Low: 3.2 in / High: 3.7 in

  • Field View 100: Low: 121 ft / High: 14.6 ft

  • Length: 9.28 in.

  • Night Vision Compatible

  • Objective Diameter: 24mm

  • Total Elevation Adjustment: 100 MOA

  • Total Windage Adjustment: 100 MOA

  • Capped Turrets

  • Weight: 16.95 oz.

  • Lifetime warranty 

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?

Griffin Mil G2 reticle in black or FDE

What others are saying?:

5 out 5 stars on Optic Planet   

As good as it gets

Got this on a sale and paid just under 1500 after tax and shipping. For the price, you won't find a better LPVO. This thing rocks. Got the ACSS Raptor reticle as I'm running this on a 14.5 super duty and prefer the 50yd zero and ballistic drop reticle over the Griffin. Glass clarity is superb all through magnification range. And yes, this thing is absolutely red dot bright even on 7/10 setting. Maybe at high noon on a glacier you would need to go higher than 8/10 on the illumination setting. Don't bother getting scope rings with this as you will do away with the near invisible scope feature when you're at the lower magnification settings. That is also an amazing thing about this scope: at 1x, with both eyes open, the scope itself is barely perceptible when looking at your targets. Once you get the diopter adjusted to your eye (both eyes open!) there is no noticeable shift in your view when taking turns closing each eye to see the shift.

Link to other reviews:

C_Does on YouTube

Price point:

MSRP = $1749.99

Retail = Same

I need it now! Availability:

Primary Arms, Midway USA, or your local shop

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Red dot bright reticle

  • Ranging reticle

  • Super clear on 1x or 8x

  • Lightweight

  • Edge clarity

  • Smooth power adjustment

Cons:

  • FDE is more bronze’ish colored

  • No zero stop

Score: 9.00 Amazing

ZeroTech Thrive 1-10x24

Zerotech Thrive

1-10x24 RAR Review

  ZeroTech Optics has been releasing a lot of products recently. One of these is a new base model low power variable optic or LPVO. It is a second focal plane (SFP) 1-10 power optic with an illuminated reticle. The official name of this LPVO is the ZeroTech Thrive 1-10x24 - RAR. It offers clear glass as well as a bunch of other features.

  As mentioned, the Thrive 1-10 is ZeroTech’s value priced LPVO. It is currently just under 300 dollars. This makes it a great option for someone wanting to see if they want a LPVO, or anyone looking for an inexpensive option that has a 10x magnification. It also comes with a neoprene scope cover, which is way nicer than the plastic flip caps other companies give you.

  Being a 1-10 power optic has some advantages. At 1 power, this LPVO has a true 1x magnification, or as close as you can get. When at 1x, the Thrive 1-10 is really close to what looking through a red dot looks like, just with an actual reticle instead of a dot. Don’t get this confused though, it is not a red dot. Then, if you turn the magnification up to 10 power, you can identify targets with ease. Or actually reach out some distance to shoot. 25 years ago, a 10 power scope was all you needed to reach out to 1000 yards and that is still true today. 

  Now we know what the ZeroTech Thrive 1-10 is capable of, what kind of reticle does it have? The 1-10 uses ZeroTech’s “RAR” reticle. This reticle is a second focal plane MOA reticle. Being a SFP reticle, in this case, means that the reticle's MOA marks and numbers will only be accurate at 10x. It also means that the reticle will stay the same viewable size throughout the magnification range. Okay, let me try to explain the reticle, there is a lot going on, kind of. Pointing toward the center of the reticle are three, 4 MOA thick lines that taper down. One on each side, and one on the bottom. These are to help draw your eye to the center reticle portion. The center reticle has thin lines with hash marks every 2 MOA. These hash marks are 1 and 2 MOA high, depending on where they are on the stadia lines. These can be used for ranging, bullet drop, or windage. Inside the inner reticle is a 0.75 MOA dot. Then surrounding the inner dot and part of the reticle is a horseshoe ring. The horseshoe is 12 MOA in diameter. I really like the RAR reticle as I found it super quick and very useful.

  The RAR reticle is semi-illuminated. Basically the horseshoe and center dot illuminate. To turn the illumination on, tap the button on the battery cap. It has 6 illumination settings. To increase brightness, just push this same button again. Once it hits the brightest setting, when you tap the button again, it will start cycling down to the lowest setting. Then when on the lowest, it starts cycling up again. Hold the button down for a few seconds to turn the reticle off. The reticle is not “daylight bright”, but it is fairly bright and can be seen on overcast days. 

  Now that you know what the reticle of the Thrive 1-10 looks like, it needs to be sighted in. Having the ability to crank the Thrive up to 10 power really helps you be able to see where you are hitting on the target. The adjustment ring, to adjust that magnification from 1-10x, is fairly smooth. It also has a small, removable, throw lever. It's not huge like some others, but it is useful. The Thrive 1-10 uses capped turrets. So to adjust the windage and elevation, you must unscrew them and set them aside. Then you have standard click adjustable turrets. The turret’s clicks are not super positive. They also feel a little mushy to me. This is a base model scope, so I didn't expect them to be crisp. More just a heads up. Once the turrets are adjusted to your satisfaction, you can loosen the center screw, pull the turret up, set it to zero, and re-install the screw. Something else I noticed with the Thrive 1-10 is that each click adjustment is ¼ MOA, which is a more fine adjustment than many of the Thrive's direct competitors in the market. 

  The clarity of the Thrive 1-10 impressed me. For being a value optic, the clarity at 10x was nice. It didn't have any shadows around the edges, just a clear picture. The eye relief is decent, but a little tight at 10x. I'd say the eye relief falls in the middle of comparably priced LPVO’s. There are better and there are worse. At 1 power, the scopes clarity and eye relief are quite good. I didn't run into any trouble, using the Thrive, anywhere in its magnification range. 

  I ended up mounting the Thrive 1-10 on a 16” 556 AR. It needed something other than the red dot that was on it and the Thrive fit the bill nicely. After mounting the scope, it was off to the range. This is where I ran into the Thrive's only real problem. I pushed the button to turn on the illumination. Okay, that worked as expected. Then I shot the rifle. Every time the rifle recoiled, the illumination would flicker off and then back on. I contacted ZeroTech and they said that it can do that with certain recoil impulses. Yes, it is an inexpensive optic, but this bothers me. It's not like I was mounting the Thrive on something with heavy recoil. I guess I'll have to move it to a 22lr or not use the illumination. Besides that drawback, I really like the reticle. It is easy to use and draws your eye right to the center aiming point. 

  If you are looking at getting into an LPVO, the ZeroTech Thrive 1-10x24 is not a bad choice. Yes it has some problems, but it also has some great features. Personally, I think it would be a fantastic optic for a 22lr rifle. Go head over to ZeroTech and take a look at the Thrive 1-10x24 RAR. 

Firearms Insider Reviews - Key Points

Claim to Fame:

Low cost, second focal plane, LPVO with decent reticles

Target Market:

Anyone wanting to get onto the LPVO game

Features, Benefits, and Specifications of this product:

  • Focal Plane - Second (SFP)

  • Magnification: 1-10x

  • Reticle calibrated magnification power (SFP only) - 10x

  • Objective Lens Diameter - 24mm

  • Main tube Diameter - 30mm

  • Reticle type - RAR Illuminated

  • Fixed parallax – 125m (137yd)

  • Turret Index Value - 0.25 MOA

  • Exit Pupil Diameter - Low: 8mm; High: 2.4mm

  • Eye Relief - 3.62-3.94in (92-100mm)

  • Windage & Elevation Adjustments - 120 MOA

  • Field of View @ 100 Yards - Low: 118.8ft; High: 11.3ft

  • Main tube Material - 6061-T6

  • Weight - 17.8oz (505g)

  • Full multi coated lenses

  • Reticle - RAR Illuminated

  • Objective Outer Diameter - 30mm

  • Ocular Outer Diameter - 44.5mm

  • Waterproof Rating - IPX7

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?

G4 and PHR4 reticles

What others are saying?:

Nothing found as of publishing

Link to other reviews:

Nothing found as of publishing

Price point:

MSRP = $449.00

Retail = $299.00 plus 20% off

I need it now! Availability:

ZeroTech Optics 

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Great reticle

  • Inexpensive for 1-10 SFP

  • Lightweight

  • Push button brightness adjustment

  • Clear glass

Cons:

  • Reticle flashes on recoil

  • Mushy turret clicks

Score: 6.50 Okay

Sightmark Presidio 5-30x56

Sightmark Presidio

5-30x56 LR2 Review

  When it comes to magnified optics, prices and quality can range drastically. Sightmark is not new to these magnified optics and has various different product lines. Sightmark's Presidio line is somewhere in the middle of what they have to offer, which fits with what I was going to do with it. 

  I was looking for a fairly high power magnified optic. That is where Sightmark came in. They have a first focal plane Presidio in 5-30x56. It has a mil style Christmas tree reticle called the LR2. It was perfect for the Bergara I was reviewing. This much magnification makes it easier for my eyes to see targets at distance. So testing accuracy on the Bergara was easy thanks to the Presidio 5-30.

  The specifications of the Presidio 5-30 are really what make it a great optic. That 6x zoom makes it possible to see fairly close up and still reach out. Its large 56mm objective lens allows good light transmission so you can see your target, even at dusk on high magnification. The 30mm one piece body makes it easy to find scope mounts. The parallax adjustment is adjustable from 20 yds to infinity, so the Presidio can still work well on a PCP style airgun or even a 22 long rifle. It has an illuminated red reticle so you can see it better at dusk or dawn. Plus, if you want it, Sightmark throws in a throw lever. All the other details are down below in the Features and Benefit section.

  Sightmark uses their LR2 Mil reticle in the Presidio. This reticle is a pretty standard First Focal Plane Christmas tree style reticle (see picture). Since it is a first focal plane, the stadia marks of the reticle stay the same size throughout the magnification range. The LR2 reticle has windage and elevation marks at 0.5 mil increments, with mil numbers at 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10 mils. Out at the outer left, right, and top are 0.1 mil marks. They are intended to give a more accurate range estimation, when using the reticle for determining the range to a target. The Christmas tree dots can be used to combine wind and elevation holds, giving you a precise reference on where to aim. Lastly, the stadia line thickness is 0.03 mils, so you get a super precise aiming point. If you want the full hash marked reticle in view, you can only adjust the scope’s power up to 18x. After that the reticle starts to get cut off in the window. At 30x, you get about 2⁄3 's of the reticle’s marked stadia. 

  When looking at optics in this price range, optic clarity is huge. The Presidio 5-30 pleasantly surprised me for a $500 optic. When looking through the optic, it is very clear and has very little chromatic abrasion throughout the magnification range. Eye relief is decent. However, I did notice a slight difference between 5x and 30x. The weird part is that 30x seemed more forgiving than 5x, Usually it is the other way around and the lower magnification is more forgiving on eye relief. The field of view, or the width of what you see looking through the scope, is a little narrower than some optics. So finding a target at the higher magnifications can be a little more difficult. I wouldn’t call this a deal breaker for sure, just something to note for some shooters. 

  Having an illuminated reticle on the Presidio is nice. It is not daylight bright, but it is not intended to be. If you are shooting in lower light, or even cloud cover, it works nicely. There are 6 brightness adjustments on the left turret. In between each level is an “off” resting spot. I really like having an off position between brightness levels. That way I don’t have to try and remember to turn the knob all the way to the off position. Sightmark says the battery life on the Presidio has a 150 hour average. So at lower levels you can get up to 500 hours. This may not sound like a lot, but that's basically a week of being turned on all the time, or more. 

  The Presidio 5-30 uses target style turrets. I think these style turrets were a good option for the Presidio. They don’t stick up too far and are large enough to get a good grip on. The turrets produce a decent click when adjusting them and it can be felt. Each click adjusts the scope by 0.1 mil. The elevation turret has numbers 0-9, with 10 hash marks between the numbers. Each number is 1 mil and each hash mark is 0.1 mil. The windage knob has a zero position, then it is marked either 1R, 2R, etc, or 1L, 2L, etc. Each number is also 1 mil with 0.1 mil hash marks between them. For example, if the bullet needs to go left, just move the dial toward 1L. Both the windage and elevation knobs can be set to zero once you are sighted in. On the left side of the Presidio is the parallax knob and the brightness knob. These are pretty self explanatory. A win for the Presidio is that it also comes with a zero stop. This is very uncommon for optics in the Presidio’s price range. The zero stop is also easy to install. 

Radio tower lamp is approximately 300 yds away

  As mentioned previously, I mounted up the Sightmark Presidio on a Bergara bolt action rifle. The rifle is a 308 win. I found the Presidio to perform well enough on that platform. The eye relief made it harder to get the scope forward enough with normal picatinny rings. If I had an extended pic rail mounted on the Bergara, that would have helped. One disadvantage of the Presidio is its 30 mm tube. Because of this, you only get 18 mils of travel out of it. With the Bergara’s 20 moa base, I still only get 12.5 mils of up adjustment in the Presidio. That means that I can only dial the optic out to a range of around 1100 yards with the 308 cartridge. I don’t expect to ever shoot this past that, but it is something that I feel needed mentioning. The Presidio 5-30 is heavy, like 2 pounds worth. I know it isn’t a small optic, and other optics in this price range weigh about the same, but I was hoping for a little lighter. Other than that, I have been happy with the Presidio. I just can’t get over how clear the optic is.

  If you are looking at a decent optic to get into longer range shooting, the Sightmark Presidio 5-30x56 may be it. It has great glass for an optic in this price range. The nice turrets and zero stop make it a great choice for whatever you are doing. Yes it has some performance limitations, but in this price range, that can be expected. If you are looking for that decent, entry level, long range optic, the Sightmark Presidio might be a good choice for you.

Firearms Insider Reviews - Key Points

Claim to Fame:

Variable power, budget friendly, high magnification first focal plane optic

Target Market:

Anyone looking for a quality higher powered first focal plane optic 

Features, Benefits, and Specifications of this product:

  • Reticle brightness settings: 6

  • Magnification (x): 5-30

  • Objective lens diameter (mm): 56

  • Eyepiece diameter (in/mm): 1.74 / 44.1

  • Exit pupil diameter (mm): 36.6

  • Eye relief (in/mm): 3.7 / 95

  • Field of view (ft @100yd): 22ft - 3.7ft

  • Tube diameter (mm/in): 30 / 1.18

  • Parallax setting (yds): 20 - ∞

  • Mil adjustment (one click =): 1/10

  • Windage adjustment range (MRAD): 18

  • Elevation adjustment range (MRAD): 18

  • Zero stop included

  • Throw lever included

  • Maximum caliber: .338

  • Battery type: CR2032

  • Battery life (hours): 150 - 500 hrs

  • Shockproof, Fog proof 

  • 1st Focal plane

  • IP67 - waterproof and dustproof

  • Body material: Aluminum

  • Fully multi-coated lenses

  • Operating temperature (°F/°C): -20 to 160 / -29 to 71 F/C

  • Length (in/mm): 15.67 / 398.02

  • Width (in/mm): 3.79 / 96.25

  • Height (in/mm): 3.02 / 76.71

  • Weight (oz): 33 oz

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?

3-18x50

What others are saying?:

5 out of 5 stars from Randy on Optics Planet  

I was skeptical at first, decided to take a chance because it had a lifetime warranty and I watched a video on it from one the head tech/designer at Sightmark. I was impressed so I bought it. I wasn’t disappointed when I got it. This scope feels like a much more expensive scope. Turrets are solid, audible and precise. Has an elevation stop and removable turret caps to set back to zero when you’re done sighting. The throw lever on the magnification works really well. Clarity is very good, high and low. It weighs as much or more than scopes costing twice as much. I have it on an AR 50 A1 - .50 BMG and have put 12 rounds on it with no issues so far. As solid as it is and the few rounds I’ll shoot a lot of .50 BMG I don’t see any issues forthcoming.

Link to other reviews:

The Gun Zone  

Price point:

MSRP = $539.97

Retail = $449.97 on Amazon

I need it now! Availability:

Amazon, SightMark, MidwayUSA, or your local dealer

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Great clarity

  • LR2 mil reticle

  • First Focal Plane

  • Illuminated reticle

  • Target turrets

  • Zero Stop

Cons:

  • Long

  • Heavy

  • Long eye relief

  • Small elevation adjustment range

Score: 7.50 Good

Favorite Link:  Bergara B-14 Ridge SP Review  

ZeroTech Thrive HD 1-8x24

ZeroTech Thrive HD

1-8x24 Review

  ZeroTech Optics sent Rusty and I one of their new Thrive HD 1-8x24 Low Power Variable Optics (LPVO). For a bit I was trying to decide what to put it on. Then SRU and Foxtrot Mike made the decision for me, by sending me a bullpup kit. The new Thrive HD was a perfect fit. ZeroTech’s new LPVO has some great features, some clear glass, and some other stuff.

  The ZeroTech Thrive HD 1-8 is the first LPVO in the Thrive lineup. The Thrive series of optics is primarily built for hunters, but that does not mean that there is not crossover into other types of shooting. In fact, the bullpup kit I mounted it on probably won’t see a day of hunting in its lifetime. Unless the random coyote pops up when I have it on hand. Being that the Thrive HD 1-8 is a second focal plane optic, it does lend itself nicely to hunting. However, the way the reticle is set up also works well for run and gun type competition. I think it is more of a dual duty style of optic.

  Construction on the Thrive HD is somewhat simplistic. ZeroTech constructs the 1-8 using 7075 T6 aluminum. 7075 is stronger and lighter than the typical 6061 that a lot of other scope manufacturers use in their $450 price range LPVO’s. It weighs in at 22 ounces, which also falls right in line compared to other LPVO’s. As with most LPVO’s, the Thrive HD uses a 30 mm outer tube diameter. The adjustment turrets are of the capped style. This gives it a clean look. Since this is not a scope for long range work, the capped turrets do not detract from anything.

  ZeroTech throws a few “extras” in the box that are pretty nice. Up first is the Thrive HD’s flip up covers. These are not your everyday plastic ones. They are aluminum and screw on. Using the supplied tool, you can tighten them down to your preferred location. This is especially nice for the ocular lens with the fast focus eyepiece. Since you need to focus the eyepiece to your eye, you can then loosen the flip cap, align it, and re-tighten it, so it works correctly. The 1-8 also comes with a removable throw lever. This throw lever uses a little rail type attachment. So one just slides it on and tightens the little screw. Also included is a neoprene style one piece scope cover. It is a really nice cover.

  When looking at optics, the reticle can be really important. The Thrive HD 1-8 uses ZeroTech’s PHR 4 illuminated reticle. This reticle, for some reason, reminds me of the old German #1 reticle. It is not even close, but here is my best explanation. The PHR 4 has 3 fairly thick crosshairs, 1 up from the bottom and then 1 on each side. These then reduce down to 0.5 MOA thick lines. These lines extend 7.5 MOA out toward the center reticle. There is then a 2.5 MOA space until the center reticle starts. Yes, there is a center reticle. The center reticle is also the part that illuminates. They call this a floating reticle and is more akin to a standard small thin crosshair reticle. It measures 5 MOA. It also has a 0.5 MOA dot in the center. Of course all of these measurements are at 8x. There are 5 brightness settings on the Thrive HD. On/Off and adjustment are a little different than what you might be used to. On the left side of the scope is the battery cap. In the center of the cap is a button. This button is pressed to turn on the red illumination, in the last setting that was used. Just push it again to cycle through the 5 brightness levels. It cycles from brightest to darkest, and then repeats itself. Since the Thrive HD does not have any shake awake function, you will want to remember to turn it off when done. To do this you just hold the button down for about 3 seconds and the illumination turns off. The brightness is not daylight bright, but is very useful. ZeroTech does not sell the Thrive HD as daylight bright, so I was not expecting it to be.

  The Thrive HD 1-8 has capped turrets for adjustment. To adjust the LPVO, you must first remove the caps. Underneath are some decently nice knobs. These are easily adjusted with your fingers. The ¼ MOA clicks are a tiny bit mushy, but can be heard and felt easily enough. The ¼ MOA adjustments are a nice feature. A lot of 1-8 LPVO’s have ½ MOA adjustments. These windage and elevation knobs can also be set to zero, after the initial sighting in. That way you at least have a reference when making further adjustments.

  I was impressed with the clarity on the Thrive HD. Looking through it produces clear images with no detectable color differences. It did not seem to matter if it was at 1x or 8x, nothing seemed distorted. However, the eyebox on the 1-8 is unforgiving at 8x. You have to be in just the correct spot to get a good image. At 1x, I did not notice any problems getting a clear picture through the eyebox. This is my only real complaint about the Thrive HD 1-8.

  As mentioned, I mounted up the Thrive HD to a bullpup. This required me to put it in a higher optics mount. I used a Geissele 1.93 scope mount and it was perfect for the 1-8. You can read the SRU review to find out why the mount is turned around. I mention this so you get the idea of how I used the Thrive HD. This LPVO is really clear for its price range. I would compare it to some optics that are priced a couple of hundred more. It really shines at 1x with the PHR 4 reticle. Then the 8x gives you enough magnification to identify targets easily. The adjustment ring, with its optional throw lever, operates super smooth. Those flip covers take a little bit of getting used to, they are a bit stiffer than the normal ones I use. All those little add-ins are a nice touch too. The Thrive HD did everything I wanted it to do.

   The Thrive HD 1-8x24 is a good option for those looking for a LPVO. It is decently priced for the quality and clarity you get. It has a very useful illuminated reticle. The throw lever, to adjust the magnification, is super smooth. You really get a lot of optic for your money with the ZeroTech Thrive HD line. Go check out Zerotech’s line of optics, they might have something that fits with your shooting style.

Firearms Insider Reviews - Key Points

Claim to Fame:

1-8 power LPVO with a hunting style MOA reticle

Target Market:

Anyone wanting a LPVO in the 1-8 power range

Features, Benefits, and Specifications of this product:

  • Focal Plane Second (SFP)

  • Reticle calibrated magnification power: 8x

  • Magnification Range: 1-8x

  • Objective Lens Diameter: 24mm

  • Main Tube Diameter: 30mm

  • Main tube Material: 7075 – T6

  • Turret Index Value: 0.25MOA

  • Internal Elevation Adjustment: 90 MOA

  • Internal Windage Adjustment: 90 MOA

  • Parallax Adjustment Range: Fixed 100 Meters

  • Exit Pupil Diameter: Low: 8mm; High: 3mm

  • Eye Relief: 3.58-3.94 inches or 91-100mm

  • Field Of View @100 Meters: Low: 41.6 m; High: 5.1 m

  • Field of view @ 100 Yards: Low: 124.8 ft; High: 15.5 ft

  • Lens Coating: Fully Multi Coated (FMC)

  • Weight: 22 ounces or 624g

  • Illumination: Yes

  • Waterproof Rating: IPX7

  • Aluminum flip covers

  • Adjustment tool

  • Neoprene scope cover

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?

G4 reticle    

What others are saying?:

Nothing found as of publishing

Link to other reviews:

Precision-rifle.com

Price point:

MSRP = $449.00

Retail = Natchez Shooting Supply

I need it now! Availability:

ZeroTech Optics

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Good clarity

  • Easy to use reticle

  • Brightness adjustment

  • Throw lever

  • Premium flip covers

Cons:

  • Tight eyebox

  • Only 5 brightness levels

  • No shake awake brightness feature

Score: 7.50 Good

Favorite Link:  SRU Bullpup Chassis review  

Modern Spartan Systems

  Maintaining your firearm is a key point to keeping them shooting properly. Modern Spartan Systems is in the market to help you with all those needs. If it’s cleaning, oiling, greasing, or anything else you might need to maintain that firearm, they have you covered. I received one of their “Starter Kit Plus”, some Blade Oil, and even an engine additive. I’ll try to inform you about the products and how they worked for me.

  Modern Spartan systems uses a Nano Shield technology to make their products. This Nano Shield allows molecular particles to penetrate and fill in microscopic gaps in metal. It does this through heat activation. Some parts, like barrels, will do this under their own heat. Other parts might need to be heated in an oven to obtain this. But mainly, just put it on and use it as normal. It effectively smooths out all the rough spots that one can only see under a microscope. 

  Another thing that makes the Modern Spartan System products stand out is their “green” labeling. Essentially their products are marked “green” or “earth friendly”. They use the definition of green from the EPA. The EPA standard says that they must be either biodegradable or inert. Modern Spartan Systems does, almost jokingly, say “Although we are not recommending that you ingest our products or use them as salad dressing, our formulas are generally quite safe to work with.” So if you are worried about harsh chemicals, these might be what you need. These products work just as good, better in my opinion, then those caustic ones you are used to.

  The Starter Kit Plus is exactly that, a kit that includes all the cleaning and lubrication you need. It comes with the Modern Spartan Systems Accuracy Oil, Carbon Destroyer, Accuracy Grease, Copper/Lead Destroyer, and Crystal Clear.

The Carbon Destroyer and Copper/Lead destroyer are your cleaning products. Use the Copper/Lead Destroyer for cleaning barrels, slides, bolts, etc, as you would any other bore cleaner. It works well on both copper and lead. The best part is that there aren’t any harsh smells. If you have ever tried to get out copper with an old school solvent, you know what I mean. My absolute favorite product in the kit is the Carbon Destroyer. It works like nothing else I have ever used, including other carbon removers. Just soak your carboned up part for a bit and then wipe the carbon off. If it doesn’t all come off, just repeat. Or scrape the carbon off much easier because it has been loosened up from the Carbon Destroyer.

The Accuracy Oil and Grease are where the Nano Shield tech really shows. For our purposes, the grease is just thicker Accuracy oil for parts that need grease. So anything about the oil, also applies to the grease. Now the Accuracy Oil is fantastic! It is called “accuracy oil” because of the Nano Shield technology. By smoothing out the imperfections in your barrel, it makes it more accurate. As a byproduct, the barrel is also easier to clean. The amount of gained accuracy has a lot of variables, but it does have some validity. I just can’t say if it helped my rifle, since I am not as good of a shooter as I once was. The other huge advantage to the Accuracy oil is that it reduced friction by 90%. I can actually feel the difference when cycling my firearms. Since it also bonds to the metal, it protects the surface. I also noticed that it doesn’t become sticky like other oils I’ve used. It stays slick even after sitting for a while. 

The Crystal Clear is Modern Spartan’s glass cleaner. It works on plastics also, so you can use it to clean your safety glasses. It is designed to be used on scopes, binoculars, and glasses. In order to get the most accuracy out of a firearm, you need to have the scopes glass clean. Just spritz some of the Crystal Clear on and wipe it off with a cleaning cloth. Since I wear prescription glasses, I used this on them also. My lenses came out super clean. The small bottle is great to keep in your range or hunting bag. 

  Modern Spartan Systems also sent a bottle of their “Blade” oil. This is their knife oil and protectant. Very similar to the Accuracy oil, it also reduces friction by 90%. The “Blade” oil also creates a slick surface to help sharp things glide through whatever they are cutting. It also bonds with the metal to create that same Nano Shield. On a knife, this helps the blade to effectively be sharper by smoothing out those microscopic imperfections. You can use it on anything that cuts, from scissors to axes, and it will protect them from rusting. I’ve been using the “Blade” oil on all the knives around here. It definitely makes them open easier. I'm terrible at keeping my knives at their sharpest, so if the blade oil makes them cut better, I don’t know, but at least I know they are protected from the elements.

  I also was sent the “TVT” engine oil additive. You add this to your engine oil, and using the same molecular bonding as the other oils, it reduces friction. I have no way of actually testing this. Modern Spartan says it will increase fuel mileage by 5-10%. I saw about a 3% gain in mileage. Not a ton, but with overpriced fuel these days, 3% can be a good amount. 

  The Modern Spartan Systems Starter Kit Plus is great. It has 2 ounce bottles of everything you need to clean and maintain your firearms. The stuff really works, all of it, even the Blade oil. If I were to choose one product to buy, it would be the Accuracy Oil, followed by the Carbon Destroyer. Mainly because the oil does so much, and I use it more often. Do yourself a favor and go check out the products over at Modern Spartan Systems. They have stuff for fishing, automotive, knives, and of course firearms.

Firearms Insider Reviews - 8 Key Points

Claim to Fame:

Advanced, green, cleaning and lubrication products

Target Market:

Anyone wanting great gun cleaning and oiling products - knives, fishing, and automotive too

FNBs (Features & Benefits of this product):

All products listed below are “Green” and Made in USA

Accuracy Oil  

  • 90% reduction in friction

  • Low stick surface so dirt doesn’t stick to it

  • Adheres to metal surfaces

Accuracy Grease 

  • The thicker version of the Accuracy oil

Carbon Destroyer 

  • Water based penetrating solvent

  • Micro-emulsion technology

Copper/Lead Destroyer 

  • Barrel metal safe - won’t damage metal parts

  • Low to no odor

Crystal Clear 

  • Optical cleaner for scopes, bino’s, glasses, etc

  • Safe for anything from plastic to glass

Blade Oil 

  • Knife Oil

  • Reduced friction by 90%

  • Protects and enhances knife blade performance

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?

Tons, check them out at Modern Spartan Systems

What others are saying?:

5 out 5 stars at Modern Spartan Systems  

Amazing products!

I've tried the Carbon Destroyer and accuracy oil so far and they are a clear step up from every other gun cleaning and lube products out there. I am very particular with my choice of gun maintenance products and only use the best available. Spartan systems are the new King of the hill, by a measurable margin. My go to range gun has over 20K rounds through it already and now it feels better than brand new.

Link to other reviews:

Pew Pew Tactical 

Price point:

MSRP = Starter Kit Plus - $59.95 

              Blade Oil - $14.50  

Retail = Same Try “GGR15” code for 15% off

I need it now! Availability:

Modern Spartan Systems

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Slick

  • Reduced friction by 90%

  • Bonds to metal

  • Can get a kit to try out

  • Carbon remover works fantastic

  • Improves accuracy

  • Made in USA

Cons:

  • Hard to find locally

Score for all products: 8.50 Great 

Favorite Link:  JSD Supply