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Predator Armor and Accessories

  Predator Armor is a new company breaking into the armor category. They don’t just have plates, but plate carriers and other useful accessories. We had them on Episode 396 of the podcast to talk about their kevlar coated steel body armor plates and such. Predator Armor sent me 2 plates, a carrier, a dump pouch, and a utility pouch. 

  The first thing that comes to mind when looking at Predator Armor’s name is armor. Their armor plates are made of steel. Don’t drop off just yet, Predator has some cool stuff for their steel plates. First off, you can get their steel plates in NIJ level 3, or level 3+. Either straight or curved. Plus, one can have an optional Kevlar wrapping around the plates. This Kevlar wrapping helps prevent spalling, which is a common drawback to steel plate armor. The kevlar adds a little less than a ¼” to the plate's thickness, while adding very little weight. The normal plate is just a little over ¼” thick. I measured it at 0.270”, but the sprayed-on coating (not the Kevlar) probably adds a tiny bit extra to give that measurement. I received a level 3+ curved plate and a level 3 Kevlar wrapped curved plate, both have the shooters cut and are 10x12. Being that the plates are curved, they are very comfortable to wear. I would definitely opt for the extra $15 each to get a curved plate. Another noteworthy option Predator gives you, is the ability to add a “testing target” to your order, for an extra $15. This testing target is cut from the same steel as your plates. This gives you something to do your own testing on, if you feel the need. If you would rather not get the testing target, the plates are rated and tested to NIJ standards. They are not NIJ certified, as of this review.

  Steel plate armor has some pros and cons. Predator Armor knows this, and isn’t trying to sell you anything different. They understand that it is heavy and not something you would want to wear all day, every day. The steel armor is more for someone wanting the protection that it provides, for the off chance they might need it. A pro to steel armor, is that it does not have an expiration date. Lightweight armor plates usually have a 5-10 year shelf life. Another pro of steel armor is cost. Steel plates are far more economical. When I say steel armor is heavy, each plate weighs 7.5lbs, so that's 15lbs you're wearing over your shoulders. Being able to handle multiple hits is also a big plus to steel armor. Predator Armor’s Kevlar wrapped plates also are a plus for the reason mentioned earlier.

  If you have some plates, you need something to wear that holds them. Enter the Minuteman plate carrier. The Minuteman carrier is pretty much like most plate carriers. The plates slip inside the front and back. They are then held in place by a full length hook and loop flap. This flap goes inside the carrier, around the plate, so there is no hooking it on the outside where it could get peeled off and have the plate come out. These flaps hold the plate super securely, the plates are not falling out. There is plenty of MOLLE on the front and back to attach stuff. The top 2 MOLLE rows are also hook & loop with more sewn on in between them. There are 6 total MOLLE rows on each of the front and back. On the back of the plate carrier is also a drag handle, just in case, or for carrying the Minuteman around when you aren’t wearing it. The carrier is mesh lined and padded to help keep you cooler and comfortable. Quick release buckles are used on the waist straps and on one of the shoulder straps. The other shoulder strap has a hook & loop adjustment and no buckle. Padded shoulder strap covers are also included. They are pretty well padded and definitely help when wearing the carrier and plates for long periods of time. Predator Armor sometimes has plate and plate carrier packages available. So you can get everything you need while saving a little bit of dough.

Dump pouch

  Along with plate carrier packages, Predator Armor offers some other accessories. One of these is a Dump Pouch. If you haven’t heard, a dump pouch is super useful to throw half full magazines into while training, or anything else you can think of. Their dump pouch can be rolled up when not in use. If you then need the dump pouch, just pull on the little tab, and it will unroll to it’s useful size. Predator Armor says you can fit 9 AR magazines in it, yes it’s big enough, but that 8 & 9th one are a tight fit. To attach the dump pouch, they put both a belt slot and MOLLE. The dump pouch also has a bungee cord and lock so you can cinch it closed, if needed. This dump pouch is fantastic. I mount it toward the back of my belt. It’s then there for me to throw used magazines in. It’s made from 1000D cordura, so it holds up to just about anything. Another Item Predator Armor makes is a Utility Pouch. It is also made from 1000d cordura and is 6.5" x 3" x 5". It also has a belt slot and MOLLE for mounting it, with additional MOLLE on the front. I found the pouch to be very useful, mainly for dumping ammo out of magazines. But either way, it’s a useful little pouch that is very well made.

Utility pouch

Rolled up dump pouch

  I have been using all of the Predator Armor stuff. I don’t mind having steel plates, after all, I am not wearing them everyday. The padded straps on the Minuteman plate carrier eased the weight burden when I wore the plates around. I really like the carrier, it is all around pretty comfortable, so much that I would use it with lightweight plates.. I use the utility pouch way more than I expected to, I’m always throwing something in it before I come home from the range. Then there’s the dump pouch. I love how large it is. The size makes it easy to find without looking. Plus, it holds so much stuff. 

  Predator Armor has hit the market hard with a bunch of good stuff. They know what they are doing and what lane they are in. The products they make are top notch and all of them are made in the USA. If your in the market for some steel body armor, or some tactical nylon gear, go check out Predator Armor, they don’t just make steel plate armor.

Firearms Insider Reviews - 8 Key Points

Claim to Fame:

Inexpensive Steel Armor packages with spall protection

Target Market:

Those wanting armor and accessories for that occasional use

FNBs (Features & Benefits of this product):

  • Plates

    • NIJ level 3 or 3+

    • 10” x 12” shooter cut

    • Flat or Curved (optional)

    • Stab and Slash Resistant

    • Kevlar lined to protect against spall and frag (optional)

    • Durable and water resistant coating on plate

    • Maintenance Free

    • Thickness .25”

    • Designed to be used as a front or back plate

  • Minuteman Carrier

    • 500D Cordura material

    • Mesh lined for comfort and ventilation

    • Removable, padded mesh shoulder pads

    • Hook-and-loop webbing on front and back

    • Drag handle

    • Adjustable shoulder straps and waist

    • Quick release buckles on shoulders and waist

    • Designed for 10"X12" plates

  • Dump Pouch

    • 1000D Cordura construction

    • Minimal space required (3"x3"x2")

    • Large enough for 9 AR mags

    • MOLLE and belt compatible

  • Utility Pouch

    • 1000D Cordura Construction

    • 6.5" x 3" x 5"

    • Pocket Sleeve for item separation

    • MOLLE and Belt compatible

  • All items 100% made in USA

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?

Plenty, just go check out Predator Armor

What others are saying?:

5/5 stars @Predator Armor

Plates seem to be exactly as advertised and the carrier is excellent for the price. Very happy with my purchase.

Link to other reviews:

Turncoat Tactical YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8czwIi6Cdfg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voqn_QtTaiY

Price point:

MSRP = $65.00 for a single level III plate

Armor packages from $290.00

Pouches = $40.00 ea

I need it now! Availability:

Predator Armor

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Price

  • Available level III+

  • Anti-spall Kevlar wrapped option

  • Testing target

  • Plate Carrier is well made and comfortable

  • Large Dump pouch is great

  • No expiration date

  • Made in USA

Cons:

  • Heavy

  • Not NIJ certified

Score:  8.00 Great

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Johnny Stewart Wireless Preymaster Digital Caller

Johnny Stewart Wireless Preymaster Digital Caller

Electronic calls are very effective for predator hunting, especially with a remote control. Being able to start and stop the calling with the push of a button instead of calling with a handheld blow-in call frees up the hunter's hands to utilize gear, aim a firearm, or eat a sandwich. Also, the predator's will be trying to locate the source of the sound, and being in a advantageous shooting position thats within sightline of the caller and surrounding area will help prevent being spotted and spooking your quarry away.
The Johnny Stewart Wireless Preymaster Digital Caller gives the user the ability to choose from 12 different calls using 3 memory card pairs. The caller comes with rodent distress, squealing bird, meadowlark, bobcat in heat, high pitched cottontail, canine puppies, yellow hammer, coyote pup distress, canine pups, kid goat distress, pleading chicken, and whitetail fawn distress.

Johnny Stewart Wireless Preymaster Digital Caller

The memory cards in the remote must match the cards in the caller, all you have to do is insert cards into the A, B, and C slot respectively on both devices. You can also play two sounds at once by simply pressing call button on the remote, and then another. While this is somewhat unorthodox and might not coax your skittish coyote to come running, the right combination may just be the sweet harmony that does the trick. High pitched cottontail and whitetail fawn distress combined sounds like a two course meal in theory, but to me sounds busy and unnatural. However canine puppies and coyote pup distress will give the impression that multiple young yotes are gathered in one spot and the urge to investigate could be irresistible.
The range on the caller's remote is advertised to reach up to 250 yards, but this is really under the best conditions. I found the farthest Ive had the remote work, on fresh batteries, was about 150-200 yards with a clear path to the receiver. With heavy cover or trees, expect a more limited range for the remote. You can still however start the call you want and then walk to your shooting position thats out of range, you just have to hoof it back to stop the call or change it to another sound.
Overall I've gotten quite a bit of use of the Preymaster Digital Caller, and it has called in it's share of coyotes when the right sound is chosen. Another benefit is that Johnny Stewart produces different memory cards that you can order to replace sounds in your Preymaster, so if crows are what you are after, you just buy different cards and insert them into the remote and receiver.
While the Preymaster seems to be discontinued, you still maybe able to find one in the clearance aisle of your sporting goods store. For the price, I would recommend this caller for the beginner or casual predator hunter.

Firearms Insider Reviews – 8 Key Points

Claim to Fame:  A rugged, dependable unit that will satisfy the needs of the most dedicated predator caller, yet is affordable and easy to operate for beginners as well.

Target Market:  Predator Hunters

FNBs (Features & Benefits of this product):

  • Wireless remote with a range of 100 yards (under optimal conditions it can reach up to 250 yards).
  • Remote control transmitter is durable and has a water resistant keypad with raised buttons
  • The base unit holds three memory cards for a total of 12 sounds. All previous
  • Backwards Compatible with older memory cards for PM-1, PM-2 and PM-3 Preymaster units.
  • The base unit will continually play sounds until it is shut off or until batteries run out.
  • Clip on the back of the base unit for attaching
  • Mount on the front to hold the included speaker
  • 110+ db rating
  • 10' extension cord is included (so that you can elevate the speaker while you keep the base unit on the ground.)
  • Total weight: 2.3 lbs.

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?: Green Only

What others are saying?:

"Update from 2009 review: I have had very bad luck with the unit in temperatures under 25F. Quite often I found myself getting up from position to go back out to the caller to tinker with it to get it to turn on. For whatever reason, I found that when I had this problem that I had to turn the unit off, remove all the cards, reinstall them, and turn the unit back on. Sometimes several times. I also found that the on/off switch in colder temps would not turn the unit on. Basically, in the late season, this unit is undependable to me when the coyotes are the most nervous. Not a good mix. That's too bad, I really like Johnny Stewart sounds. Went with a Foxpro Spitfire and haven't had any issues yet including using it in single digit temperatures." Craig Travis, MidwayUSA Review

Price point:

I need it now! Availability:  Discontinued but check local hunting shops

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Remote lets you stop calling/resume
  • The volume control button is located on the side and there is also a lanyard loop to make it easier to carry in the field.
  • Play two sounds at once

Cons:

  • Plastic body has weakpoints
  • Not as loud as other digital calls
  • Headphone jack connecting speaker to unit body is susceptible to bending / breaking

Score: 6.0 Okay

 

 

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Burris Predator Quest 4.5-14x42mm Scope

  Burris Predator Quest Scope

What makes one particular scope more suited for hunting predatory animals than other scopes? Its a valid question.  After all, if any given hunting/field scope gives you the ability to hit a deer-sized target at 100 yards, it should be fine for coyotes, right? Well, yes it should. Most hunters will take small game using a rifle/scope setup that is no different then their big game rig or even their range plinker. Any optic could be used for predators, but there are certain unique aspects of this kind of specialized hunting, and a scope can be built around those factors to give an edge to the shooter.

Burris Predator Quest Scope

Predator hunting is a lot different than hunting a 'prey animal' in a few ways. Coyotes and Bobcats have keen senses to spot and stalk their own prey, which makes it very hard to stalk them in return. Typically its either 'spot and shoot' or use a caller/decoy to lure them close enough for a shot from a concealed positon. The opportunity for that shot is extremely shorter and quicker than with any other game because of the clever, skittish nature of these animals. Sometimes the coyote will be running along your perimeter at a brisk pace, at range, and that is the only opportunity it will lend you. Or maybe its a bobcat sitting patiently and statuesque at the end of a windy field, defiant to come any closer. Being a great shot and having plenty of luck is preferred, but having a scope specialized for the conditions is what could mean the difference to not taking a shot out of doubt, or splattering the dirt all around the 'ol Wiley as he high tails it into the next county.

Burris Predator Quest 4.5-14x42mm

The Burris Predator Quest scope is designed to give the predator hunter a better tool for the job. The optic is backed by Les Johnson, a world champion coyote caller who's been on numerous award winning television programs on the Sportsmans Channel. While I'm sure Les is a good hunter and decent shot, his history with scope endorsements is a tad shaky. In short summation, the brand Predator Quest started with Les' first video in 2004, and his first scope endorsement was picked up by Simmons. I have not personally tested one, but from other reviews on various predator hunting forums online, the quality was wanting and many reviewers warned others from wasting their money. Thankfully the power of consumer and industry feedback response led to the Predator Quest line being picked up by Burris Optics.

Burris Predator Quest Scope

Burris Predator Quest Specs

It doesn't take a keen investigator to see that the Burris Predator Quest scope is essentially the Fullfield E1 scope with a snazzy graphic of the Predator Quest logo, optional camouflage finish, and an included ARD (Anti Reflective Device) that screws onto the objective end of the scope to cut down glare that could spook critters. Burris just chooses to not call it the Fullfield E1 - Les Johnson Signature Predator Quest Edition. That is a mouthful after all. Despite the reskinning of an existing product, the Predator Quest scope carries features that lend themselves to predator hunting. Available in 2-7x, 3-9x and 4.5-14x there is enough magnification power variety to suit the sub 100 yard rabbit hunters, the 200 yard max varmint cullers, or the short to long range quick encounters where wind and drop will be the biggest obstacles.

Burris Ballistic Plex E1 Reticle

The Ballistic Plex E1 is Burris' flagship crosshair for hunting riflescopes these days. Its designed to help shooters overcome two of the biggest challenges when shooting long-distance: determining holdover at distance and compensation for wind drift. It is a BDC system (ballistic drop compensation) and the four hash marks on the lower vertical crosshair are calibrated to provide aiming points from 100 to 500 yards for many of the 'most common' hunting cartridges. Becoming more familiar with MOA-EBR style reticles, BDC systems have fallen out of favor in my collection, however I do see their validity when used in the field for lightning-fast compensations, as long as the shooter is confident their exact load of choice will impact where they are expected in relation to the reticle's factory determined 'guesstimation.'

As for compensating for that pesky crosswind that will push most .22 calibers around like child's play, the E1 reticle has cascading dots on either side of each elevation hashmark to give the shooter a left or right holdover mark for a 10mph crosswind. For different angles or speeds of gusts the shooter can split or multiply the distance between the dot and the vertical crosshair. Fortunately the day I went to zero this scope on my Savage 22-250 was quite gusty, however without a meter to accurately read the wind speed my shots at 300 and 500 yards opened up quite a bit. Still on paper, which means on coyote... but the faster velocity of the 22-250 resists the wind better, especially with higher BC projectiles so the points of reference weren't dead-on exact but close enough to walk a few in where I wanted.

While you can't bank on the windage dots to deliver minute of angle results because of variables like fluctuating gust strength, velocity and ballistic coefficients, etc, they do offer another benefit when trying to squeeze in one desperate shot on a fleeing coyote or bobcat. Instead of using your best 'Kentucky Windage' to lead the scrambling varmint, you can use the windage points as point of aim reference. You may only get 1-2 shots before the Songdog reaches a sanctuary, so being able to track and lead the moving target at 200-500 yards with the E1 reticle is definitely alot easier than using a duplex or other traditional crosshair.

The overall fit and finish of the Predator Quest scope was very satisfactory. The Realtree Max 1 Camo finish is very effective (and matched my Savage very well) with matte black turrets and magnification adjustment ring that give it a nice contrast. Adjusting the magnification ring is smooth with a good resistance, the ring itself has scallops for grip texture I found to be positive enough for adjustments in the field. The parallax adjustment was not ideal, being a ring on the 42mm objective bell that was difficult to turn.  Additionally, the camo finish makes it hard to see the yardage marking, while the matte black version had red colored yardages that are easier to read. It makes me want to set it at one setting and not touch it, trying to focus in on an animal means taking your supporting hand and even your head off the stock... this scope would have been so much better if it had a side parallax adjustment turret! Perhaps I'm just spoiled with higher end optics, but being able to adjust parallax without breaking cheek-weld or ready-position seems like a darn good idea for a predator scope, where seconds matter and fumbling fingers mean missed success.

The elevation and windage turrets are pretty decent. Being capped helps prevent shifting from zero during transport/handling/storage. The clicks are 1/4" MOA and have a nice detent that are entirely finger adjustable, and are audible and tangible as well.

Burris Predator Quest Scope

Lastly, the glass quality of the Predator Quest is on par with it's price bracket. The lenses are Index-Matched, and have a Hi-Lume® multi-coating that provide enhanced light transmission in low light environments and glare-resistance. With the addition of the screw-on Anti-Reflection Device, Burris really wanted to be sure no glints of glare from the sun off the objective lens would spook off foxes or coyotes. I like the addition of the ARD, and the fact it is removable. I would be afraid that an errant stick or perhaps careless storage practices would cause the thin honeycombs of the ARD to become damaged fairly easily, so scope caps are probably a wise investment.

 

Burris Predator Quest Scope

Overall, I am already quite fond of this scope. I was really interested in testing/evaluating it, because it seemed like a good match for my Savage rifle, and also I could find no other reviews on the scope online. The mystery and curiosity finally got me to pull the trigger with my credit card, and I feel like it was a gamble that paid off. Despite the few personal preferences/dislikes I have found, its still a great option for a predator/varmint rifle in .223, 22-250, .243, or other popular calibers suited for small game.

Firearms Insider Reviews – 8 Key Points

Claim to Fame:  World Champion coyote caller Les Johnson and Burris have teamed up to produce a riflescope uniquely designed to take out fast-moving predators.

Target Market:  Varmint Hunters

FNBs (Features & Benefits of this product):

  • Also available in 2-7x35mm and 3-9x40mm at different price points
  • Ballistic Plex E1 reticle: compensate for wind, elevation, moving targets out to 500 yards.
  • First-rate glass
  • Index-Matched Lenses
  • Hi-Lume® multi-coating, glare-resistant
  • Capped Turrets
  • Screw-on Anti-Reflection Device
  • Nitrogen-purged, Waterproof, Shock and Vibration proof
  • Burris Forever Warranty

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?: Matte Black or Camo (Realtree Max1)

What others are saying?:

 No other reviews found

Price point:

I need it now! Availability:  Readily available online at Brownells or Optics Planet

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Elevation and Windage turrets are solid - slight turn resistance and detents for positive adjustments
  • Included ARD (honeycomb) is a nice addition, can slip scope cap over both
  • E1 Reticle is clean and useful for acquiring moving targets and doping for wind

Cons:

  • Parallax adjustment is difficult - a large ring forward towards objective, really hard to turn and bumps/texture not deep enough for grip. A side knob would have been much more ideal / hold scope back from a more perfect score.
  • Parallax yardage markings are difficult to read with camo finish - easier with matte black version
  • Glass clarity is good, noticeably less bright/clear than other competitors but on par with others in price point.

Score: 7.5 Good

 

 

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