Stock and Forends

Boyds At-One Shotgun stock


 As mentioned in the previous Boyds At-One review, Boyds has been making laminate wood stocks for a long time. So you most likely have heard of them. They have since come out with the At-One for pump action shotguns. So they asked me if I would like to review it, and here we are.

 Boyds gunstocks history goes back to 1981. But they have definitely kept up with the times. The stocks are inletted with CNC machines. Only US grown hardwoods are used for the laminate process. Boyds’ stocks are also hand sanded so that the smoothness is just right. I’m told the factory is even temperature controlled to maintain consistency. All of this, and finished off in a special hard finish that seals the stock, including the inlet portion, to protect it from the weather and make it last for years

 As of right now, they only make the shotgun At-One for two models. Those models are the Remington 870 and the Mossberg 500. I chose the Mossberg 500 version in “Sky,” which is a blue/grey/black laminate. Now, when the marketing rep and I ordered this, we did not look at everything, so the forearm was the wrong one. I now know that there are two different action slide lengths for the forearms. I have the shorter one. So when ordering, please read the fine print at the bottom. This was by no way Boyds’ fault, it was mine. But as the saying goes “the more you know.”

 On to installation. The stock and forearm go on pretty easy. Take the buttplate of your old stock and unscrew the bolt holding it on. It should come right off. Then you need to install the included metal adaptor to your receiver. The stock comes with all the hardware needed and really good instructions. Pretty easy so far. Now you have to install the stock to the adaptor with more supplied hardware. First you have to remove the bottom cap off of the stock so that you can have access to the screw hole. Then you can install the stock itself. This is where I ran into a little bit of a problem. The hole and supplied screw are at an odd angle, so getting a long enough allen wrench in the hole is key. My universal nut driver, with allen head bits, was just too large in diameter to fit down in the recessed hole. Because of this, I took out a tiny chunk of wood where the bottom cap meets the stock. I should have just ordered a long allen allen wrench, which fits fine. Once that’s done, screw the bottom cap back on and the stock is good to go. The forearm went on easy. Just loosen the odd nut (I’m sure it has a name) that holds on the forearm. A special tool works best, but I just used a big chisel as a huge screwdriver (not recommended). I did remove the forearm from the shotgun first. Then I just lightly tapped the new Bantam forend on, installed the odd nut, and reinstalled the forend and rails onto the shotgun. It was really fairly easy.

 Now that the At-One is installed, it’s time for my experiences with it. As with the other At-One I reviewed, it is very comfortable to shoot. All of those adjustments really give the shotgun shooter an edge. Finally a stock that can be adjusted for the individual user. My Mossberg 500 has never really fit me correctly, until now. Since the comb on the At-One is adjustable, I was able to raise it up a little more than the fixed factory stock. This improved my shooting some. The length of pull on the Mossberg was fine, but with the At-One, I could fine tune it just a little more. However, I wasn’t real keen on the sharpness of the pistol grip. I liked it on the rifle, but prefer a more rounded one on the shotgun. If you want a larger pistol grip, they make the target one, which adds more meat to the grip and also changes the angle slightly. Another advantage to the length of pull, is how short the Boyds stock can go. One can shorten it up to 12.5” and out to 14.25”. If you want to make a more maneuverable shotgun, say for moving through a house, you can adjust the stock all the way in. It also works good for shorter armed shooters. The buttons to adjust the buttpad and comb have a very stout spring in them making them hard to push. This is done on purpose to keep any accidental adjustments from happening. Now I will say that the buttpad on the At-One is nice, but on a shotgun, a softer one would be nicer. It is the same buttpad as on the At-One rifle stocks. Now If you are really into adjustments, Boyds does offer a vertical adjustable buttpad system.  

 Boyds makes some really nice products. The At-One for shotguns is another one. It is available in a standard walnut also, in case you don’t like the laminate look. I personally like the laminate’s. The adjustability gives these stocks an edge in the field or on the range. Now, if they only made them for semi-auto shotguns. Take a look at Boyds gunstocks, they make a nice product.

Firearms Insider Reviews - 8 Key Points

Claim to Fame:

Adjustable laminate wood shotgun stock

Target Market:

Those wanting adjustability and/or different looks from their shotgun

FNBs (Features & Benefits of this product):

  • Laminate Hardwood

  • Adjustable Butt pad

  • Adjustable Cheek rest (Comb)

  • Interchangeable Grip

  • 12.5" to 14.25" Length of pull

  • .75” of comb adjustment

  • Made in USA

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?

Too many to list, go check them out HERE

Vertical adjustable buttpad

What others are saying?:

Couldn’t find anything on the shotgun stocks, only rifle stocks

Link to other reviews:

Could only find “new release” articles

Price point:

MSRP: Stock = $175.00

           Forend = $67.00

Retail = Same as above

I need it now! Availability:

Boyds Gunstocks

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Adjustable comb

  • Adjustable length of pull

  • Optional pistol grip

  • Stable Laminate

  • Great installation instructions

  • All US made

Cons:

  • Tough to get stock screw tightened

  • Buttpad could be softer

Score: 8.00 Great

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Magpul AK Zhukov-S Stock

Magpul Zhukov-S Stock

The debate "AR-15 vs AK-47" has been a long, frivolous dispute for decades.  The biggest cosmetic difference I have noticed is the quality of aftermarket furniture available to the AK platform, compared to the AR type rifles.  There are plenty of options out there, but very few are truly as robust as the classic Kalashnikov warhorse itself. Sadly the best buttstock options open up when an adapter installed to make use of a buffer tube that accepts AR-15 stocks. Purists would argue against such blasphemy.
Gun enthusiasts don't agree on much, but when Magpul Industries introduced a pistol grip for the AK platform just a few years ago followed by 7.62x439 PMAG magazines, users have been clamoring for more furniture for their beloved rifle ever since. In 2015 thousands of wishes came to fruition as the Magpul MOE AK and Zhukov handguards and buttstocks were debuted at SHOT Show. Designed and priced as two tiers, the MOE and Zhukov hanguards only differed in length, while the Zhukov-S stock is much more enhanced than the MOE stock.

Magpul Zhukov-S Stock

The Zhukov-S is a side-folding and telescoping stock that fits right into the AK receiver and rear trunnion and is compatible with many stamped-receiver AK type platforms with a single trunnion. How Magpul made one stock compatible with all the different tolerances of varying regional AK pattern rifles without modification is by a very cool wedge block that when tightened during the installation process, makes for a very reliable fit. The concept is so simple yet efficient and expanding to fit most stamped receivers. I was very curious how they were going to accomplish this, and I'm genuinely impressed by how easy it was to install myself. Made of the same high strength polymer as Magpul's other products, the Zhukov-S stock is a modern, sleek but highly functional upgrade from a traditional fixed stock. It's biggest accolade is its folding capability. While not novel on an AK, the design of the stock and its hinge mechanism are extremely well executed. Using the button on the left side of the stock just rear of the QD stud, the overall length of the rifle reduces by 7 inches when folded, making the rifle easier to store and transport.
I was interested in how resilient the hinge mechanism was going to be on a polymer... after all the AK47 is a quintessential tank that is supposed to survive the worst of apocalyptic conditions. Fortunately it uses a solid steel hinge pin, and is designed by some of the best engineers in the business. I can report that watching some other more physical reviews on Youtube, the stock's hinge will not survive being ran over with a vehicle. I don't know of any stocks that would (even the fixed wood stocks will certainly crack) so I won't hold this product to impossible standards.

Magpul Zhukov-S Stock

After weeks of use including multiple folding and unfoldings, butt-stroking asphalt, push ups while folded, and just about everything short of dragging it behind a truck, the stock has held up very well. Interesting enough, the lock mechanism is designed to compensate for wear over time, allowing it to fold to the right with a positive detent with no slop whatsoever. When deployed the stock is very rigid with no play either.
In the folded position, spring loaded delrin plungers keep stock pretty secure. It's not a lock sp theres no latches or buttons needed to deploy.  It only takes about an inch of movement before the detents release and the stock can be deployed quietly and quickly. This stock is capable of abuse I wouldn't dream of subjecting other polymer stocks to, its really that good. The only issue I had experienced during the first weeks and still do to the day of writing this review, is the collapsing mechanism is very stiff. Gripping the stock's end like the toe of a boot, you squeeze the lever with your index finger and it pivots a polymer latch, which allows the user to pull out the stock along the 5 positions like a collapsable M4 style stock, however the amount of friction between the parts makes this a sort of stubborn feat. It's gotten slightly better with use, but I don't adjust the length of pull enough to make it as easy as other adjustable stocks.

Magpul Zhukov-S Stock

The stock also has several sling mounting options, with a QD sling mount on the left side near the trunnion, as well as ambidextrious QD compatible ports in in the rear (QD sockets sold separately). There is also a sling loop built into the stock's "toe" that will accept slings up to 1.25" wide. I really commend the company for embracing user preference and giving us multiple options for using sling attachments, especially the forward QD mount that facilitates single point slings, a popular choice for AR15 users that has attainable for AKs but unnecessarily complicated to do so. I feel the MS3 Multi Mission Sling by Magpul (or MS4's) shine when used with the Zhukov stock.
The buttpad of the Zhukov (an often overlooked but essential component of the modern stock) is different than the first generation of MOE recoil buttpads due to the angled, serrated toe that allows for easier mounting of the rifle, and a slight curve at the top ensures positive, comfortable seating on the shoulder during firing while reducing the chance of snagging on tactical gear. It of course offers an anti-slip surface and some recoil cushioning, but not much. Later in 2015 a new buttpad was released called the MOE SL Enhanced Rubber Butt-Pad that is compatible with the Magpul MOE SL, MOE AK, and Zhukov-S stocks. This pad features a thicker vented design for better comfort as well as approximately 0.50” additional length of pull.

Magpul Zhukov-S Stock

Now for the million dollar question: Can the rifle be charged and fired when the stock is folded? Why yes it can, however only if no cheek riser is installed. Did I mention the stock accepts Magpul's cheek risers, available in multiple heights? Picture below is the half inch riser, which does impede the bolt's charging handle when folded. This is disappointing but not a deal breaker, so you will have to sacrifice either having a raised cheek weld or firing from the folded position to enjoy either capability. C'est la vie!

Overall, this is arguably my favorite upgrade for the AK47 platform. Available in multiple colors and designed to compliment other Magpul AK products, the Zhukov-S stock is well worth the price tag.

Firearms Insider Reviews – 8 Key Points

Claim to Fame: The Magpul Zhukov-S Stock is a no-compromise folding stock for the modern AK.

Target Market:  AK variant owners. WOLVERINES!

FNBs (Features & Benefits of this product):

  • Made in U.S.A.
  • Mounts to most stamped receiver AK-47/AKM/AK-74 pattern rifles with fixed stock, single tang trunnion
  • 5-Position length of pull adjustability
  • Consistent cheek weld in all positions
  • Adjustment lever is unobtrusive and anti-snag
  • High strength, wear compensating lock mechanism allows stock to fold to the right
  • Solid steel hinge pin
  • Positive detents in the stowed position prevents movement while still allowing the stock to be instantly deployed
  • Weapon may be charged and fired while stock is folded (without Cheek Risers installed)
  • Cheek weld risers are available
  • Rubber butt-pad offers an anti-slip surface and increases impact protection
  • Rollover on the toe allows for easier shoulder transitions and better fit when using body armor
  • Sling Mounts:
    • Front – Left-side rotation limited sling mount accepts push-button QD swivels for one-point sling usage (swivel not included)
    • Rear – Optional Sling Mounts (Type 1 and Type 2) accept push-button QD swivels
    • Bottom - 1.25" sling loop

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?: Black, Stealth Gray, FDE, Ranger Green, and Plum

What others are saying?: "I bought this product from Brownells to replace the stock on my 84S (Chinese AK clone in 5.56 cal). Right out of the box I was impressed by the quality and features of the stock, and it displayed the quality that I have come to expect from Magpul products. However, if you are buying this to install on a Chinese rifle such as a MAK-90 or Type 56S, be aware that some modification of the stock will be necessary, as the Chinese AK rifles have a longer tang and different bolt spacing than European Comm-Bloc rifles. Ten minutes with a Dremel and needle file and I was in business. The stock locks up tight, and the spring detent that keeps it in the folded position is a nice touch. Overall it is the best option for a folding stock that I have found for the AK, as it does not require modification to your weapon." Brownells User Review

"There are already plenty of options for AK butt stocks, most which we are not impressed with. Most modern stocks for the platform are less than ideal, being heavy, complex, expensive or a combination of all. Many of our minions are fans of the AK family of firearms, but we all have different views of what is considered ideal.... Regardless of your preferred setup, it looks like Magpul is going to have something to appeal to all AK owners... Of all the new AK products, the Zhukov-S stock is arguably the most badass. We wanted to check out this new folder in person, so we went to Magpul’s booth to handle it ourselves. The Zhukov-S is a very streamlined, visually appealing stock." Breach Bang Clear Review

Price point:

I need it now! Availability: Brownells or local gun shops

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Folds to the right side, ensure side mounted optic rails are unobstructed
  • Wear compensation hinge mechanism with solid steel pin
  • Positive detent leaves folded and deployed positions very sturdy with no slop
  • Design ties well with Zhukov or MOE forearm and MOE AK grip

Cons:

  • Adjusting length of pull is stubborn and difficult especially right out of the box
  • Cheek risers interfere with charging handle when folded and force user to compromise
  • When folded, the stock interferes with my firing hand's grip slightly, but not enough to prevent use

Score: 8.5 Great

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Magpul- SGA 870 Stock and MOE 870 Forend Set

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After nearly a decade of gun ownership and being involved with the shooting sports the expression of “buy once cry once” is finally starting to sink in. I was contemplating the best way to make my stock 870 express a bit more tactical and in trying to save money picked up a non recoil suppressing Knoxx stock by Blackhawk. I saved almost fifty bucks over the cost of a new Magpul set but what I got in return were poor ergonomics and a sore cheek. Not to say Blackhawk doesn’t make good stuff, the fit of that stock was not for me. I now learned my lesson with the Magpul SGA Stock for 870 and the Magpul MOE forend for 870. These items are rock solid and smart. With an instinctive shooting discipline like shotgunning, ergonomics and user fit are crucial.

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With 2” of adjustment in length of pull and nearly an inch of cheek weld adjustment the applications for this stock system are many. The forend is minimalistic yet robust at the same time. It gives you plenty of purchase and has the abilities to accept MOE rails, however is not cumbersome. I have been a fan of Magpul for a very long time and the more I get into their product line the more I become a fan of their products.

Firearms Insider Reviews - 8 Key Points

Claim to Fame: Great customizable ergonomics that lend themselves to both defensive and sporting purposes.

Target Market: Who does this product serve best?

FNBs (Features & Benefits of this product):

  • Ambidextrous
  • User configurable
  • Improved ergonomics
  • Spacer system to adjust LOP
  • Optional risers to adjust cheek weld height for use with sights or optics.

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?: These stocks and forends come 3 color options of Black, Orange, or Magpul FDE. Brownells Product Page

What others are saying?: Users on Brownells are giving this all 5 star ratings for purposes from defense to hunting. Brownells Product Page

 Price Point:

I need it now! Availability: Brownells for online purchases but these can be found in chain stores such as Cabelas and Bass Pro Shops.

 Our Rating:

+-Ergonomics +-User Customization +-Multipurpose +-Compatible with optics and sights +-Durable

Score: 9.5 AmazingAmazing

 

 

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Hogue OverMolded 12” L.O.P. Shotgun Stock and Forend Review

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I purchased the Hogue OverMolded 12” L.O.P. Shotgun Stock and Forend for my Mossberg Maverick 88 because I wanted a better reach to the forend and to be able to shoot in a more squared stance. The factory stock has a length of pull of 14.5 inches, so it did both of these tasks very well. It has the OverMolded texture, which is a very grippy, rubberized texture, which helps you grip the gun very well. It was pretty easy to install with the instructions, but a little odd. The buttpad screws are hidden under the buttpad rubber and you have to lube a screwdriver and shove it through the rubber. The buttpad is way softer and more comfortable than the factory one making the recoil feel a little better. One point of complaint is that the stock may be a little TOO short. When holding the shotgun with your shooting hand thumb wrapped around the stock, the recoil may push the knuckle into your nose, causing discomfort or even a bloody nose. To alleviate this, I have heard suggestions to keep your thumb parallel to the stock on the side. I could recommend this stock for smaller framed people and youths, but because of the issue of the thumb busting your nose, I probably would not recommend it for larger framed folks.

Firearms Insider Reviews - 8 Key PointsHogue 12 LOP Forend

Claim to Fame: Shortens length of pull on your shotgun

Target Market: Youth and home defense

FNBs (Features & Benefits of this product):

  • Shortened length of pull
  • Hogue’s OverMolded grippy texture
  • Shortened reach to forend

 What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?: This stock and forend are only available in black.

 What others are saying?: "It increases mobility a great deal. A couple inches off the backside makes a much bigger difference in handling than a couple inches off the barrel. … Once I tried a 12"lop, I never wanted to go back." - blackwolf911 on SurvivalistBoards.com Hogue 12 LOP Stock

Price Point:

I need it now! Availability: The Hogue OverMolded 12” L.O.P. Shotgun Stock and Forend is available from many retailers including Amazon, MidwayUSA, and Hogue.

 Our Rating:

+ Shortened length of pull + Shorter reach to forend helps prevent short-stroking + Sticky grip texture + Soft recoil pad

- Stock may be too short for some

Score: 8 Great80