Polymer 80

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KnightFall Customs OWB Teklok holster

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I was looking around for an outside the waistband (OWB), competition-ish style holster when I ran across KnightFall Customs. Since they made one for Polymer 80 style pistols, I sent off an interest email. I hadn’t found many holster manufacturers’ that made the style holster I was looking for. KnightFall Customs sent this one for review, and it is appreciated.

  As one would guess, this is a molded Kydex holster. The OWB holster KnightFall sent was their OWB Teklok / Paddle, in black, but other colors are available. The holster is nicely molded. So much so, that it flows nicely around the contour of the pistol. There are no really sharp edges. If you like polished edges on your kydex, you can get it as an option. It is also open at the bottom so that longer / compensated pistols will fit. The molded in sight channel is very tall and will allow for “suppressor height” sights.  Lead times can vary, but they are still usually fairly short compared to some other holster manufacturers. 

  Now for the real reasons I wanted to try out the holster. First, it could be had with a TekLok belt mount. The Bladetech TekLok, is adjustable for different width belts, and then it actually has a little fold up lock to keep it on your belt. Mounting a TekLok, on a holster, also sets the holster farther away from your body. I’ve used the TekLok before, and so for a “competition style” holster, this was great. The zero cant was also a feature I was looking for. I like straight draws when using a holster for competition. Since I have a mini red dot on this particular pistol, I needed a holster that had an “RMR” option. The KnightFall has an RMR option, which cuts out the front of the holster to allow for the sight. This also can make the pistol presentation quicker, by allowing the gun to clear the holster sooner. This holster also has 2 tension adjustment screws. A nice feature for someone running different pistols in the same holster, like me. 

  This KnightFall holster is for a Polymer 80 PF940v2 with a 17 slide. Basically a fullsize pistol. Being that it has an open bottom, I was also able to fit my compact Polymer 80 in it, with the compensator. It also fits without the comp. I would have liked the holster to come with more drop, but that’s me. The holster makes the pistol ride about halfway above, and halfway below the beltline. I didn’t have any problems using it this way, just a personal preference.

  I really like the function of the Knightfall holster. Draws are super smooth, partly because of the adjustable retention. The pistol “snaps” in and out no matter where the retention is set. A testament to the molding process. I have shot 2 steel matches and one other match with the Knightfall. During these matches I carried the gun for at least 5 hrs. At no time did it feel uncomfortable, nor did I worry about the pistol falling out if I bumped up against it. I am also able to get a full grip on the pistol before the draw stroke. There is no extra kydex in the way, and the holster is cut upward a little too allow for the P80’s undercut trigger guard. 

  KnightFall Customs makes other style holsters also. If you’re in the market for this style of holster, or any other style, I would go check them out. Prices are on par with other places and the quality is top notch.

Firearms Insider Reviews - 8 Key Points

Claim to Fame:

Outside the Waistband holster with Teklok mounting

Target Market:

Competition shooters, Tactical Carriers

FNBs (Features & Benefits of this product):

  • Kydex

  • Teklok belt mounting

  • Options for Polymer 80’s

  • Straight Cant

  • Optic sight cut

  • Adjustable retention

  • Made in Alaska

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?

Patterns, Colors, and Cuts

What others are saying?:

Adam at Knightfall Customs 5/5 stars

MY FAVORITE HOLSTER FOR OWB

I was having a hard time finding a holster for my P80 build with a compensator, then I saw these and thought I'd give it a try. Customer Service was very responsive, and even did custom mounting holes for the Safariland QLS system. Very happy with it, will be buying another soon for a G34 P80 bild.

Link to other reviews:

Nothing found for this particular holster

Price point:

MSRP = $69.99

I need it now! Availability:

Knightfall Customs

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Optics cut out

  • Adjustable retention

  • Open bottom

  • Teklok

  • Available for Polymer 80, Faxon, and Grey Ghost pistols

Cons:

  • Lead time can vary

  • $5 for polished edges

  • Would like more drop from beltline

Score: 8.00 Great

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Rock Slide USA - RS2

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 Rock Slide USA has come on the market with some pretty nice products. Of which is their Glock slides. The slides come in two different versions, with options available for both models. The model I received for review is their RS2, with a RMR cut, in black, for a Glock 17. This was a stripped slide, meaning it had no parts in it.

 When I first opened the box, I was impressed. The machining was beautiful. As was the black coating. Rock Slide Cerakotes all of their slides, so this RS2 is black Cerakote. I immediately installed my Glock parts kit. All the parts went in like they should. Since this slide has a cut-out for an RMR, I proceeded to install my Holosun 507 as it uses a RMR mounting platform. I did notice that the 507 moved a tiny bit back and forth on the slide’s studs. The RS2 has studs that the red dot sight goes over and then the sight screws go into the studs. This movement was minor and didn’t cause any problems. The stud option allows for a tight fit without having to have a custom milled slide. So, I tightened down the Holosun. Rock slide also sent me a cover plate. I did put it on just to see how it fit. As expected, it fit and lined up great. They also make this slide with a Vortex Venom cut, for those wanting a less expensive sight.

 Rock Slide did a nice job with the aesthetics also. Being that this is the RS2, it has vents cut out on the front of the slide. The RS1 does not have these. The vents are cut at an angle toward the rear. I also found that these vents are large enough to act as front slide serrations. Speaking of serrations, the ones on the rear are angled and sharp enough to give good grip. The slide is also beveled on top from the ejection port forward. It gives a distinct appearance and makes it not look so Glock like.

 I mounted up the Rock Slide to a Polymer 80 frame. The slide was a nice snug fit without hardly any side to side or up/down play. It is also using a Faxon Firearms barrel which it also mated very nicely too. For the record, I did not install any iron sights on the RS2, but it does have the rear dovetail and front oval hole for standard Glock sights. This slide makes the handgun shoot great! Better than another slide I have used. So Rock Slide’s claim of better performance are spot on.

 Ever since receiving the slide, I have shot this handgun more than any other. The RS2 runs smooth. I have shot it in a Speed Steel match with zero problems. Not counting the other times I have shot it at the range. I am very impressed with the accuracy and functionality of this slide. Plus I think it looks good.

 Please go take a look at Rock Slide USA. This RS2 slide is great. Rock slide also manufactures barrels for these slides. The slides start at $200, with options to basically have a complete slide with sights and an optic! Different color options too. They are also made in the USA with a lifetime warranty.

Firearms Insider Reviews - 8 Key Points

Claim to Fame:

Precision machined Glock Slide

Target Market:

Pistol builders, Glock users that want a complete slide cut for a miniature red dot

FNBs (Features & Benefits of this product):

  • Tighter Tolerances

  • Made from 416R Stainless Steel

  • Cerakoted

  • Vented

  • Optional cover plate

  • Tapered - not square (adds a non-glock look)

  • RMR cut (optional Vortex Venom cut)

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?

With or without optics cut and vents.

FDE, ODG, Burnt Bronze, Tungsten, Pink, Unfinished

What others are saying?:

Rusty M. - 5/5 stars at Rockslideusa.com

Top notch company!!! I received my slide within a couple weeks after ordering, it looked and ran great, unfortunately there was a small ridge on the chamber face that I didn’t even notice until I ran some rounds through it. It was just enough to slightly dent the fired case head, I reload my ammo or I probably wouldn’t have worried about it. I gave Rock Slide a call, they said no problem, sent a postage paid return label and I had a replacement slide within two weeks. The slide is flawless, the finish is awesome, it fits the frame great, looks and runs great. I had the venom sight cut which fits absolutely perfect. I couldn’t be happier with my purchase and the great customer service. I highly recommend Rock Slide USA to anyone who is looking for a quality custom slide. Check out the other products they offer too, I picked up a SilencerCo threaded barrel and extra mags for my Glock 17 and the pricing on everything is very reasonable.

Link to other reviews:

YouTube review by Dark Knight Adventures

Price point:

MSRP = $219.99, $239.98 as tested

Retail = $199.99-429.98 depending on options

I need it now! Availability:

Rock Slide USA

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Price

  • Vent cutouts

  • Precision machined

  • RMR cut

  • It just looks good

Cons:

  • Not machined for individual optic

Score: 9.00 Amazing

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Werkz M2 holster for Polymer80

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 Werkz holsters is a small kydex company located in Princeton Idaho. I first heard of them on the Handgun Radio podcast. Werkz makes of variety of formed holsters and accessories. From custom to off the shelf, they have you covered. Werkz sent me one of their M2 IWB holsters for a Polymer 80 PF940c and a M2 magazine carrier for this review.

 The M2 holster is a taco style design with some other features. A taco style holster is one that is made out of one piece of material, then folded over a mold, hence the taco name. A feature that I didn’t think I would use was the ability to convert it to an outside the waistband (OWB) holster. I found this actually quit useful when I realized that this was the only holster I had for my Polymer 80 and needed it OWB. I switched the clip to the other side. To do this, one just removes the two screws holding the clip on, and moves it to the other side. The M2 has clip locations at two heights and an angled location also. I ran the holster IWB with it angled or canted forward. This resulted in the main dislike of the holster. The clip doesn’t completely rest against the holster. It hangs about halfway off. When wearing it in this config, I felt as if it didn’t have as much surface area holding onto my belt and was also easier to take the holster off of the belt. When using the M2 in the straight upright position, this was not a factor.

 I must admit, this is one of the nicest finished holsters I have used. The edges are smooth, and I mean real smooth. It has some sort of texture on the outside. The Werkz logo is etched or laser engraved into the kydex. There are bosses where the clip is screwed on. It is open at the bottom so that a longer, or threaded barrel, will fit. The sight channel is really tall to clear suppressor height sights. It is even clearanced for a micro red dot sight.

 I’ve worn the M2 on and off since receiving it. It holds the pistol very nicely with good retention. One can adjust the retention somewhat by tightening or loosening the tension screws. The M2 does seem to print some under a T-shirt, or any thinner shirt. That is why I only wore it off and on. If I had a jacket on, no problem, but I usually just wear a T-shirt as a cover garment. I mainly wore it at the 2:30 to 3 o’clock position. Angling the pistol/holster combo forward didn’t seem to make it print any less. After about 3 days of wearing the M2, my body adjusted and it was comfortable, at least somewhat. I like how the M2 only has one wide clip, it makes it easier to locate exactly where it is the most comfortable. The M2 is a small holster, Werkz even calls it minimalist, and I’d have to agree.

 As I also mentioned, I wore the M2 as an OWB holster also. This is also when I mainly used the M2 mag carrier. I wore the M2 at a local Steel Challenge match. I was concerned using it with just the single clip. After 25 draws and reholsters, I am no longer concerned at all. It performed well as an OWB rig.

 Now a little about the M2 magazine carrier. The mag carrier is also a taco style and holds the magazine vertically. It is currently only offered for 9mm/40 Glock style magazines. As with the holster, the mag carrier clip is also reversible for IWB/OWB. I never reversed the clip, I just turned the magazine around and it worked fine. The M2 mag carrier is of the same high quality as the M2 holster.

 If you are looking for a good quality, and inexpensive holster, give Werkz a look. If the M2 is in stock, it is one of the “quick ship” holsters. So you can have it quickly also. They will also do custom holsters, if that’s what you’re looking for.

Firearms Insider Reviews - 8 Key Points

Claim to Fame:

Minimalist Kydex Holster

Target Market:

Those needing a decent holster

FNBs (Features & Benefits of this product):

  • IWB - OWB convertible

  • Kydex

  • Adjustable clip height

  • 1.5” belt clip

  • Straight or canted

  • Adjustable retention

  • Useable with slide mounted optics

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?

With or Without some rail mounted lights and colors

What others are saying?:

One holster to do it all. 5/5 stars on Amazon
By Dan S
Awesome holster. Ambidextrous carry options for every situation and adjustable retention. So far this is the only holster I could find that can AWIB and strong side OWB carry without replacing any parts, just moving some screws and bushings. Comfortable and has minimal printing. Also, you can't beat this price. Nearest comparable product from a reputable source is going to cost more for less features.

Link to other reviews:

None for this particular holster

Price point:

MSRP holster = $42.50

MSRP mag carrier = $30.00

Retail = $50.00 on Amazon

I need it now! Availability:

Werkz or Amazon

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Great construction

  • Adjustable retention

  • Adjustable cant

  • Convertible between IWB and OWB

  • Price

Cons:

  • Holster prints

  • Clip

Score: 7.5 Good

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Polymer 80 PF940C

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  I have to admit, that after seeing the Polymer 80 PF940c frame in person, I had to get one. Polymer 80 was gracious enough to send one to me for review. The PF940C frame came in 3 colors at the time, so I opted for gray, more colors have been added since then. This is a 80% frame for Glock Gen 3 parts. One must first machine the frame to get it to function.

  When I first received the frame, I noticed that it came with all the tools needed to finish it out. The only thing missing was a drill press or a dremel tool. The kit includes a plastic jig that the pistol sits in. This jig is a one time use type of deal, but works really well. Basically you pull up the online instructions and go from there. Brownells also has a video series on machining the frame. First thing I did was drill the holes. Drill each hole from each side of the jig, don't think that you can just drill through the whole thing. Next, I actually took a mill and machined off the four "nubs". One can use a file, a dremel, or a drill press with a vise for this also. The last machining step is probably the hardest. In this step they have you mill out the recoil spring channel. Just pay close attention and you'll be fine. I had to dremel the channel out some more after I installed the locking block so that the recoil spring moved smoothly. I figured that you can always remove more material, but you can't add material.

  After the machining steps are done, it on to installing parts. The Polymer 80 PF940C frame kit comes with a locking block/front slide rails insert. Just drop this in and install the front pin. Also in the kit is a Rear Rail Module. This rail piece sits around the Gen 3 G19 trigger mechanism housing. I really like how they did this as it gives metal rear slide rails and is easy to install. All the other gen 3 parts go in just like a standard Glock 19. If you don't feel comfortable doing this yourself, please take it to a gunsmith.

As received

After machining and parts installation

  Now that it is assembled, it's time to go into some things I noticed about the PF940C. I love the grip texture that comes on the frame! It is not too rough, but not smooth either. It feels kind of like they glued sand on the frame. I did run into a problem with the takedown spring. The channel in the frame, where the flat tab sits, was not cleaned out, or still had a thin piece of plastic from the molding process. This made the spring sit too high and put upward pressure on the slide. I took a sharp x-acto knife and just moved it back and forth to clear out the slot. This worked good, and the spring flat slid in and sits flush. The other hitch I ran into had to do with the recoil spring channel. As mentioned above, I dremelled out more of the channel, this was so the spring wouldn't rub on the sides of the channel. Result, smooth as butter. 

  The PF940C frame has some improvements over a stock Glock 19. Besides the texture I previously noted, It has a really nice undercut trigger guard so you can really get your hand up high on the pistol. I didn't care for the front of the trigger guard, it's squared off angle looks good, but makes it not fit in some Glock 19 holsters. Holster makers are starting to address this problem, so in the future your options should be better. Polymer 80 also makes a smooth frame for those wishing to add their own texture. For those with larger hands, It also has an extended beavertail. My favorite is probably the different grip angle. This grip angle just works better for me than a stock Glock. You may, or may not like it, it really is personal preference. There is also a STANAG rail up front to mount a light. My frame, when using a Grey Ghost Precision slide and barrel, locked up super tight. It took about 100 rounds before it would cycle consistently. I could have cycled the slide by hand to get the same result, but I was excited to go shoot it.

  These Polymer 80 frames are pretty neat. If you like to build stuff on your own, or just want something different, these might just be the ticket. I had a good time building the PF940C frame into a complete pistol. These kits are really great for building a custom "Glockish" pistol. Go check Polymer 80 out, pistol frames are not the only thing they make.

Firearms Insider Reviews - 8 Key Points

Claim to Fame:

Glock 19 style 80% frame kit

Target Market:

Those wanting to machine a 80% G19 size frame, or those wanting to build a complete G19 size pistol

FNBs (Features & Benefits of this product):

  • Comes with all tools and Jig for machining

  • Online instructions

  • Easy to machine

  • Textured frame

  • Undercut trigger guard

  • Uses Gen 3 Glock 19 parts

  • Metal front and rear slide rails

  • Slight beavertail

  • Built in Metal plate for engraving ser#, etc

  • Picatinny Rail

  • Thumb ledge

  • Available without texture

  • Delivered to your door

What other aesthetic options or finishes are available?

Black, FDE, OD Green, Robin Egg Blue, White, and Cobalt

What others are saying?:

By Hollywood at GlockStore.com 5/5 stars

BETTER THAN A FACTORY GLOCK LOWER

I was blown away with how easy this was to finish. I used a drill press, but have no doubts this could have been done just a good with simple hand tools. I decided to go with a custom slide, so I did have to rack it about 150-200 times before it would move smoothly. With a Glock factory slide I'm sure it would not have required as much effort. Everything about this lower is exceptional. I field tested it putting about 250-300 rounds down range. I did have three malfunctions within the first 25 rounds but after that, she was flawless. I would have complete trust in this weapon as a daily carry. Do yourself a favor and get one... maybe two of these. They are fun to finish and even better to shoot. Plus they look great.

By Templeton P. at Brownells 5/5 stars

CAME TOGETHER NICELY

I assume because of these receivers, demand for even just plain old used Glock 19/23 uppers seems to have skyrocketed. It's hard to find one under $300 unless you get really lucky. You will NOT save money vs buying a new Gen 3 Glock (or probably even a Gen 4) by doing it this way. I was seeing used Gen 3 G23s for $299 just a couple of weeks ago. That being said, this is a fun project, and everything can just come to your door. Had never attempted anything similar, but it was relatively easy to complete. I didn't have a mill, but instead bought a milling bit for my Dremel. I had the Dremel Router/Shaper table accessory and it made the job exponentially easier. If you plan to use a Dremel, I would highly recommend spending the extra $35 for this add-on. Freehanded the barrel block. Put the jig in a vice and just took my time and it went okay. Drilling the holes is a no brainer as well. Sanded things down and installed the parts kit without much fighting. Grabbed a box of cheap ammo and worked flawlessly at the range from the first trigger pull. Needs more range time before I trust it completely, but so far so good. Ergonomically, I also find this feels better in my hand than actual Glocks. Going to try a 9mm conversion barrel next.

Link to other reviews:

We Like Shooting review

Price point:

MSRP = $160.00

Retail = $149.99 at Brownells

I need it now! Availability:

Brownells

Our Rating:

Pros:

  • Comes with all tooling (Jig, Mill, Drills)

  • Frame texture

  • Uses Gen 3 Glock parts

  • Undercut trigger guard

  • Multiple colors

  • Can be completed with a dremel

Cons:

  • Some patience needed for small problems

  • Not all standard G19 holsters fit

  • Sharp angled front of trigger guard

Score: 7.00 Good

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